Why would anyone need a SSD drive?

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Inverted08

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Hey all,
Lately, i've been seeing lower and lower prices on SSD drives, yet they are still in the very high numbers, 60gb of SSD can cost you back 250 bucks. Not trying to flame or anything, but I have not seen the purpose of buying 60gb worth of hard drive space for 300, just because it has faster read/write speed. What applications would benefit from this? If it was a tb of ssd, sure, id buy it, because i could put all my stuff on there, but i dont see what a 60gb drive is going to do to anyone.
Thanks :/,
Invert
 
If you ever have a chance to use a quality, properly configured SSD driven computer, then you will understand completely. It's not about max read/write speeds, at least not for me. I don't have a lot of large files to transfer constantly.. But the overall system speed is undeniably better. It even makes browsing the web faster and more responsive.

Ignorance is bliss- ;)
 
honestly, personally atleast it's because it's the only thing I can put in my netbook lol

I'd have to agree a bit though, they're still way too overpriced for the average person. I'll never buy one for a desktop untill they come down under $1.00/gb
 
right thats what i figured, for netbooks is useful :/. Still, i see lots of people here with SSD drives out the butt in their pc's :p
 
Cause there fast

Hard drive is the slowest part of the computer....getting an SSD makes it go faster.
 
Inverted08 said:
right thats what i figured, for netbooks is useful :/. Still, i see lots of people here with SSD drives out the butt in their pc's :p
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A. They have money out the butt.
B. They have debt out the butt.


Probably the latter.
 
S3th13 said:
A. They have money out the butt.
B. They have debt out the butt.


Probably the latter.
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My 2x X25-M actually help my butt earn more money. The quicker I get projects done, the more I get paid. So, when you cut out seconds here, minutes there, less distractions of having to wait on windows... It all adds up to a lot of time by the end of a long day. That's why I jumped in back when the OCZ core drives first came out- Got burned by it, but these Intel's are doing great-
 
Inverted08 said:
Hey all,
Lately, i've been seeing lower and lower prices on SSD drives, yet they are still in the very high numbers, 60gb of SSD can cost you back 250 bucks. Not trying to flame or anything, but I have not seen the purpose of buying 60gb worth of hard drive space for 300
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I picked up my 64 GB G.Skill for $130. Its fast and silent and makes a great boot drive. What more is there to say?

Sure, the prices need to come down some more, but its gotten to the point now that they're cheap enough that people who aren't made of money can try them out.
 
Well, the price is high because it is new. In a couple years, they will be much cheaper, just like any new tech.

Of course, if you have a large movie/music collection, regular HD's will be impossible to beat at least for the near future for price.

As others have stated, speed is a benefit, but there are a couple others:
-no moving parts means less failures.
-no motor means less power
 
I'm using one because I didn't want to worry about it crashing on me. It's being used as a single boot drive for a home server while all my data is on hard drives in RAID arrays.

I'll probably have one in my next notebook because of their durability. It'll be a while until I use them on desktops though.
 
1. They are getting faster every refresh, just like everything tech, (my 64gb is smaller sized than the WD6401AALS or even velociraptor but speed wise its faster 1 drvie vs 1 drive , 2 drive vs 2 drive, etc)
2. Less power consumption
3. No moving parts to mechically fail
4. Very vibration resistant which means they can go more rough places and be safe.
5. Unlike bad sectors on a mechanical drive or failed drive, once sectors can't be written to, they can still be read from meaning data is more likely recoverable than mech drives.

In the end, if you need massive storage, these aren't for you, otherwise these could be a great investment.
 
Some operating conditions require one although this wouldn't be the case for home use.

I don't see myself getting SSDs any time soon. I need space not speed.
 
Inverted08 said:
but I have not seen the purpose of buying 60gb worth of hard drive space for 300
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This is the key statement. To you 60GB aren't worth 300 for the performance gain.
There's nothing wrong with that.

However, the target market for SSDs aren't the folks who look at the price tag in order to make a purchase decision.
 
yea, i guess so :/. It seems like they might become popular in a couple years, but for now, ill stick with my crappy *mechanical* hard drives :)
 
/facepalm

why would anyone need a faster processor?

why would anyone need a faster video card?

why would anyone need faster ram?

not even going to answer the question...just ask yourself

why would anyone need a faster hard drive?
 
if you think about it, with all those things you mentioned, it benefits the whole computer, while an ssd drive, is expensive, and can only give you a limited amount of space, not enough to run all your stuff on. Which is why i asked..
 
lmnopc said:
I don't see myself getting SSDs any time soon. I need space not speed.
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I need both, which is why my OS and any programs that I want to start up quickly go on my GSkill Titan and all my Documents, temp files, user profile, etc go on my Seagate ST31000333AS.

The laptop demos for our sales guys took 15-20 minutes to boot up all 3 VMWares necessary to show the demos to our clients. It now only takes 5 minutes on the Titan drives.

The demos formerly used an external eSATA Seagate 640 gig drive, which is by no means a dog, so that 400% increase in performance isn't being compared to a normal internal notebook drive.

Telling a client, "Here, wait 20 minuts while I get this set up" vs "Give me about 5 minutes" can mean the difference in making the sale, not to mention how much smoother the demo performs now.
 
Inverted08 said:
if you think about it, with all those things you mentioned, it benefits the whole computer, while an ssd drive, is expensive, and can only give you a limited amount of space, not enough to run all your stuff on. Which is why i asked..
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Plenty of space for some people.. I have installed two of them into laptops for friends who run their own business and were burned by vibration / small drops with mechanical drives and didn't want that worry anymore.. Plus the speed was a nice benefit. (yes they also backup to Mozy it isn't about backup but rather about uptime..)
 
SockMan! said:
I'm using one because I didn't want to worry about it crashing on me. It's being used as a single boot drive for a home server while all my data is on hard drives in RAID arrays.
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SSD's can fail... Just not mechanical failure like regular HD's
 
Inverted08 said:
if you think about it, with all those things you mentioned, it benefits the whole computer, while an ssd drive, is expensive, and can only give you a limited amount of space, not enough to run all your stuff on.
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Its not designed to.

Its designed for:

netbooks
Enthusiast wanting high speends and low access times.
people to use for OS install only
Highspeed Raid Arrays for Enterprise Databases.


Yes, your common average PC user doesnt need a SSD
 
ok, i understand now, because earlier, I saw something about some person saying "Score, now that SSD's are cheaper, i can run my games off of them." Would this have ANY benefit for the game performance?

btw. how would i change this thread name to Hard Drives VS. SSD :p
 
1) game performance benefits because game loads dont take as long.

2) you cant.
 
Inverted08 said:
ok, i understand now, because earlier, I saw something about some person saying "Score, now that SSD's are cheaper, i can run my games off of them." Would this have ANY benefit for the game performance?

btw. how would i change this thread name to Hard Drives VS. SSD :p
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I've never spawned 2nd in BF2142. I'm always first, by at least 3 seconds. My squad is always Alpha unless I join midgame. Granted I have a great internet connection plus a D Link DGL 4300 router.
 
I went with SSDs because I

1: Wanted a faster computer

2: Had some extra cash laying around.

I I hadn't had the cash, I prolly would have just picked up a second 7200.11 and Raided that with my existing drive. Instead I went with a Perc 5i and 4 X 30 gig OCZ Solids. About $500 for a 130 Gig drive.

It is very fast, but prolly not really worth the price I paid.

Don
 
I actually came from RAIDed Seagate 7200.11 640's, and they don't come close to my single Titan SSD except maybe in average sequential throughput reads
 
RogueTrip said:
....otherwise these could be a great investment.
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Since when did ANY computer purchase become a 'great investment'?? Wait 6 months, and it'll either be cheaper, or you'll get something better for the same price. It's been that way since I remember.
 
yea, i mean, ive established the whole thing about laptop ssd being better, but with games? as some person said, (to lazy to scroll up right now), u paid more than 200 dollars to spawn first? eh
 
Inverted08 said:
never heard that they could fail :(, this changes my mind on buying on just for kicks :p
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SSDs use flash memory. Every single write to flash causes a small amount of wear, although you could theoretically transfer several gigs per day for years thanks to wear leveling. It is much more reliable in the sense that there are no moving parts to wear out or drive heads to crash. If a sector dies you might lose some data, but not everything on the drive.
 
DeathFromBelow said:
SSDs use flash memory. Every single write to flash causes a small amount of wear, although you could theoretically transfer several gigs per day for years thanks to wear leveling. It is much more reliable in the sense that there are no moving parts to wear out or drive heads to crash. If a sector dies you might lose some data, but not everything on the drive.
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SSDs have the same error correction that magnetic hard drives have. If a sector dies prematurely, the drive will automagically remap the bad sector to a spare. The beautiful thing about SSDs is that the reading of that spare sector is instantaneous, and does not require a head move like a magnetic drive.

The current batch of SSDs will be long obsolete before you have to worry about the memory cells wearing out due to rewrites. Of course like anything electronic, you will have a small percentage that die an early death for no good reason. That's just life.

Don
 
WhatTheSchmidt said:
/facepalm

why would anyone need a faster processor?

why would anyone need a faster video card?

why would anyone need faster ram?

not even going to answer the question...just ask yourself

why would anyone need a faster hard drive?
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pretty much sums up my reaction
"why would anyone need a 4870X2?"
 
I cant wait until high capacity SSD's are out and affordable. The power usage of 24 SSD's vs 24 HD's would be pretty significant
 
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3403&p=14

That article is talking about the more expensive intel SSD, but it gives you a good idea of what normal SSD will be capable in the future (the article is already 6 months old)

You will see most performance gains in things that are not games, but even in games you will see a performance gain. Minimum FPS will go up and load times will go down. A 33.3% increase in minimum fps compared to a veliocraptor and a 2.9% increase in average fps.
 
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