Why is SP1 killing my 3d performance.

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Ok, just so folks now, I have done a clean install and tested it with and without SP1. (That is why I know the problem is in SP1.) I tried different drivers but that did not help either.

Here is the issue, 3D Mark programs all have a major lose in score. Also, crysis and oblivion, the only 2 games I tested also have a large FPS drop. The thing is, this problem did not happen in SP1 RC1 but only in the RTM version.

Does anyone have any idea what is going on because I would really like to use SP1.

Here is what I have:

Phenom 9500
Sapphire 2900 Pro
MSI K9A2 CF
4GB G Skill DDR2 800 Memory. (4X1GB)
Seagate 500 GB Harddrive
DVD Burner and DVD Rom Drive
750 Watt Thermaltake powersupply.

Also, I have absolutely nothing overclocked and tried all the latest drivers.

Joe
 
1. How much of an FPS loss are you talking?
2. How did you install SP1? Windows Update or the Administrative Download
 
With crysis, I figure a max FPS drop of 10fps or so. On Oblivion, it is more like about 4fps or so in the indoor areas were I need every fps I can get. Even 3DMark 05 lost over 2000 points.

I tried the full download and the windows updates both. Also, I am using the 64bit version of vista but the same thing happened when I tried the 32 bit version.

Joe
 
So, there are people who say SP1 doubled their frames per second, people who say it killed it, my conclusion: It didn't do jack shit and everyone is just exaggerating :p
 
NKDietrich said:
So, there are people who say SP1 doubled their frames per second, people who say it killed it, my conclusion: It didn't do jack shit and everyone is just exaggerating :p
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Different people with different hardware and driver version experience different results.
 
Have you tried reinstalling your video drivers after you installed SP1?

I actually noticed a FPS increase.
 
Archer, yes I did but thank you for the suggestion. (Wish that had worked.) :(

Joe
 
It's likely just to do with different PC configurations and user maintenance (some people really know how to tweak their system more than others). I'm a Crysis player, although I haven't reinstalled yet since I reinstalled Vista/SP1 yesterday. I have played on the 1.2 patch before then though.

If you're not running the 1.2 patch try it as it should help performance. If you are running the patch 1.2, the proper way of installing it is (& own experience):

Install Crysis
Defrag (I recommend JKDefrag - Free, very excellent, you can also run in safe-mode to gain access to more core files, & based off of MS' own defrag API structure too - no problems yet)
Install 1.2 Patch
Install 1.2.1 Hotfix
Degfrag

This will help with performance issues, skips and jumps, hiccups, and other possible bugs and issues. When Crysis installs (the 1.2 patch does this too) the Crysis install gets muddied up = very fragmented. The files with the most fragments are the sounds.pak, textures.pak, and shaders.pak. They also happen to be of the biggest and most important files in the game (duh), ergo performance and stability rely on the health of such files. If you're up for reinstalling the game, try the above order. GL.


EDIT: On the Vista/driver comment, here's how I've always done it for the most part

Install OS
Install ALL updates
Defrag
Install SP1
Install "Base" drivers like: chipset, storage, sound, BIOS
Install Programs & GPU drivers
Defrag
Install Anti-Virus/Security Apps (to lessen the likelihood of installation issues of other programs/drivers imo)
Install Games (& Defrag depending on needs or recommendations of said games etc.)
 
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