Wesley1357
Limp Gawd
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can't ms just release a new service pack, what new features vista is going to have that can't be on a windows xp sp3?
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Diablo2K said:I am sure you will be able to use XP for a while after Vista comes out. But you also got to look at the bottom line, Microsofts Bottom line! Sure They could of released Quake 4 as a patch to Doom 3 but then they would lose alot of money, same goes for XP and Vista. There has been alot of work going into Vista, and MS needs to make there money back.!
Longhorn was the code name. Now they've finalized it as Vista. I think I remember reading somewhere that they would use the name Longhorn for a server OS or somethingxeetim said:ok, ok..slow down. I thought that Longhorn was the next OS. What the heck is this Vista busness i'm reading. please don't confuse this noob.
PS..when with this OS be available?
GORANKAR said:eeyrjmr, I really hope you are wrong about the subscription part.. I really, really, really hope..
Sloth_Boy said:If im correct, windows vista has been almost totally built from scratch. It is a whole new operating system. Everything is alot different with how windows will now handle things.
eeyrjmr said:1) one-off buy gives you access to security updates + the odd new feature
2) smaller one-off buy but yearly subscrition to updates (priority security) and all new features.
eeyrjmr said:You and me both. BUT it the way that all industry's have headed. Take the airline industry. A jet engine cost 10mil easy. BUT abt 5years ago they started giving hte engines away for free but charging an apsolute fortune for spares.
NOT saying MS are going to give away Vista, but I have a feeling they might offer two payments
1) one-off buy gives you access to security updates + the odd new feature
2) smaller one-off buy but yearly subscrition to updates (priority security) and all new features.
It just makes more business sense for them to get everyone onto subscription. It has been abt 4years since XP? inital cost was £200? so that is only £50 a year they got, by the time Vista is released it would have been more like £40 per year - they are losing money and for a business that is bad news
Sloth_Boy said:If im correct, windows vista has been almost totally built from scratch. It is a whole new operating system. Everything is alot different with how windows will now handle things.
The performance of general tasks using the operating system is supposed to be drastically sped-up (menus, folder browsing, program cycling.etc).
Windows vista is also meant to be alot more stable than xp, less crashes, better application handling and debugging. I think they have totally revuilt windows is becuase of all the problems. This will also have better virus disabling features which will be hidden from view ofcourse, vista wont let programs perform certain tasks, such as downloading, system resource hacking.etc. I think windows vista has some kind of law, as in, programs can only do this, if they first do this or prompt the user with that...
Anyway, im upgrading to vista as soon as it comes out, im just so sick of xp and its problems...
I definitely won't since I basically made the same point in my earlier post in this thread ^_^bob said:For anyone who is reading this, and has decided to quote me about 50 times and argue my post to death, and wants to talk about "well thats just your optinion stoopeed, who do you think you are to tell us....". Remember, this post by me is about me and how I feel about the operating systems when I use them on my pc. Im usually the person that Is clicking and hammering away at the keyboard, and does not want any cutsey animations to slow me down. I hate em. GRRR.
Hopefully no one will misunderstand my post.
bob said:Im now using XP, And Im really getting frustraited by how its more like Macos. Too much crap to look at, balloon popups, searching for something takes an agonizing 5 seconds because I have to wait three for the doggy animation to play and the retarted 3D buttons to pop up.
bob said:Ok, before I say anything, here is some boring info about me:
I loved windows 3.1 (hated the general protection faults that I always got). It had a crap free, usefull, and fast GUI. There were no cute shading, 3D buttons, annoying balloon popups, and its search feature in filemanager was great. Ive slowly moved up through the years. '95, NT 4.0, '98, NT2K, ME, XP...
It was great untill I hit XP. NT2K still had that style to it. Crap free and wasnt annoying.
Im now using XP, And Im really getting frustraited by how its more like Macos. Too much crap to look at, balloon popups, searching for something takes an agonizing 5 seconds because I have to wait three for the doggy animation to play and the retarted 3D buttons to pop up.
Windows vista, judging by the screenshots, takes this to an entirely new level. Its as if it were designed to waste every spare nanosecond of the users time.
Unless it has some options to turn ALL of that 3d crap off, I wont buy it. I'll just buy a playstation/xbox to do my games, and keep on using fedora core 4 for the internet and hardforum. Come on, nobody is going to be making games for linux anytime soon. So if I dont buy windows, I wont have an OS to play most of my games on.
Yes, yes. Im well aware that people have gotten many games to work under Wine, but my point is....
I want less crap, less eye candy, I want more of my screen resolution dedicated for rendering pixels, which in turn represent boobies, posts at hardforum, or whatever I may be doing. Linux is cool. I click on something, it does what I tell it to do, and if I screw something up or do something weird it doesnt tell me about it untill I restart and get a kernel panic. Windows always tells me "are you sure" "are you sure, that you are sure??".
It may be just be, but I get so damn mad sometimes when Im using my pc. Sometimes it shows in my hardforum posts.
eye candy and 3d crap =
windows 3.1/X-windows =
For anyone who is reading this, and has decided to quote me about 50 times and argue my post to death, and wants to talk about "well thats just your optinion stoopeed, who do you think you are to tell us....". Remember, this post by me is about me and how I feel about the operating systems when I use them on my pc. Im usually the person that Is clicking and hammering away at the keyboard, and does not want any cutsey animations to slow me down. I hate em. GRRR.
Hopefully no one will misunderstand my post.
And still 256 MB of RAMbob said:Dells, gateways, HPs, ibms.... Im sure all of those will be shipped with the latest greatest operating system.
bob said:Ok, before I say anything, here is some boring info about me:
I loved windows 3.1 (hated the general protection faults that I always got). It had a crap free, usefull, and fast GUI. There were no cute shading, 3D buttons, annoying balloon popups, and its search feature in filemanager was great. Ive slowly moved up through the years. '95, NT 4.0, '98, NT2K, ME, XP...
It was great untill I hit XP. NT2K still had that style to it. Crap free and wasnt annoying.
Im now using XP, And Im really getting frustraited by how its more like Macos. Too much crap to look at, balloon popups, searching for something takes an agonizing 5 seconds because I have to wait three for the doggy animation to play and the retarted 3D buttons to pop up.
Windows vista, judging by the screenshots, takes this to an entirely new level. Its as if it were designed to waste every spare nanosecond of the users time.
Unless it has some options to turn ALL of that 3d crap off, I wont buy it. I'll just buy a playstation/xbox to do my games, and keep on using fedora core 4 for the internet and hardforum. Come on, nobody is going to be making games for linux anytime soon. So if I dont buy windows, I wont have an OS to play most of my games on.
Yes, yes. Im well aware that people have gotten many games to work under Wine, but my point is....
I want less crap, less eye candy, I want more of my screen resolution dedicated for rendering pixels, which in turn represent boobies, posts at hardforum, or whatever I may be doing. Linux is cool. I click on something, it does what I tell it to do, and if I screw something up or do something weird it doesnt tell me about it untill I restart and get a kernel panic. Windows always tells me "are you sure" "are you sure, that you are sure??".
It may be just be, but I get so damn mad sometimes when Im using my pc. Sometimes it shows in my hardforum posts.
eye candy and 3d crap =
windows 3.1/X-windows =
For anyone who is reading this, and has decided to quote me about 50 times and argue my post to death, and wants to talk about "well thats just your optinion stoopeed, who do you think you are to tell us....". Remember, this post by me is about me and how I feel about the operating systems when I use them on my pc. Im usually the person that Is clicking and hammering away at the keyboard, and does not want any cutsey animations to slow me down. I hate em. GRRR.
Hopefully no one will misunderstand my post.
Kinda like the enhanced security in NT/2K/XP was supposed to help when we switched from 9x?drizzt81 said:we should upgrade so that we can get DRM, which will protect you from Virus' and other malware.
bob said:Yeah, I just figured out the search thing the other day. I also found out about the other settings when I had to up my virtual memory, right in the performance tab, there is a button to disable all of it.
I dont really need to upgrade, either. But that is what this post is about, answering why we need it. Hmm. No reason, really. But we'd better warm up to it. Dells, gateways, HPs, ibms.... Im sure all of those will be shipped with the latest greatest operating system. Vista will be showing up at schools, at work too.
Im sure it will be a few years at least before games start requiring Vista. I wasnt untill a year ago that I actually had to get XP to play a game.