Why did you choose Intel over amd?

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To start off, i am an AMD fan. Im impressed with the performace in gaming and video processing, even on their cpu's for under 100$.

I looked into intel's recently, and am amazed at how expensive they are, even for celerons. I never cared for the newer ones, because of my slow experiances.

Im wondering why people still choose Intel over amd. This isnt like a Chevrolet vs Ford Question. This is a matter of price, performace, and watts.
 
basically because they work with less glitches, i dont have the time or energy to screw with my system all the time so Intel is the way for me, also HT is very very nice and makes a large difference in my work flow
 
I've almost always gone back to intel because I can get better deals and in general there's a lot less headaches. But i've switched between the two several times.

One of my favorite things fixed on the 90nm A64s is that when they overheat, instead of simply shutting down the whole system, that they now have throttling like P4 has had for years. Since the motherboard often reads the A64 on-die thermal diode wrong, shutdowns are way too common to "protect" the core. Another frustrating thing is that AMD segments dual channel memory... even cheesy Celerons can use dual channel.
 
it was cheaper at the time..but this was back a couple years..back when I wasn't as hardware savvy ><
 
I always bought what was the best bang for the buck at the time. I am still running a Thoroughbred B 1700+, sold off my 2500+ and still have a 2.4C and 2.8C. At their given points in time they had a better permance to price ratio than what the competition offered.

That said, I have started to shy away from AMD's in the professional setting. Some people may remember that deal with Thoroughbred chips and the Folding@Home client, which was eventually determined to to be a problem with the cores. Also, I have yet to have an Intel chip just "go bad". I've had them fail from heat from dead fans, but never just stop working entirely or partially. In the last 5 years I've seen 4 AMD chips do this. The first was a K6-2/400 that started corrupting data (took me forever to troubleshoot, the CPU was the last thing I suspected after it worked fine for a year). Since then I have had 4 Throroughbred B 2200+ chips fail in the Compaq D315's I support at work. The machines still boot but then they lock up during boot. Swapping CPU's fixes it.

I think both chip manufacturers are just as good as each other. Right now if I bought I would have to go A64, just because the Prescott's are too hot, especially for the SFF systems that I like. I would really like to see AMD come out with a hyperthreading equivalent though. It sure is nice to bittorrent, burn DVD's, and play Counter-Strike:Source at the same time.

Brian Taylor
 
2.4c overclocks very well. Fairly inexpensive. I think the chipset is better (875). HT. Intel is more PC-noob (people like me) friendly to people new to building thier systems IMO. I am very happy with my Intel.
 
I picked Intel over amd for my new machine because I wanted a pci-e machine and I was tired of waiting for amd to catch their asses up.
 
Destonomos said:
I picked Intel over amd for my new machine because I wanted a pci-e machine and I was tired of waiting for amd to catch their asses up.
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yep, and intels are more fun to mess with, if you want too. and you get to hit all these big numbers, like 4GHZ and 1000FSB, i like saying that i can do that :)
 
Before the current line of processors I'd say it was pretty much neck and neck between Intel and AMD. Overclocking potential and HT making the P4 the right choice for me. Now that the P4 is lagging behind it's just to save some cash and for simplicity's sake I suppose. For instance this minor upgrade I just made:

1. Bought a mobo/CPU combo at Frys - $205 total for a P4 3.2E and ECS board.
2. Sold my 2.4C and the ECS board for $130. Cost for the upgrade was only $75 because I could use my current motherboard.

If I wanted to get an Athlon that would be comparable to an OC'd 3.2E, I'd have to buy that as well as a new motherboard, so it would be more expensive to get relatively the same performance. If I was building a whole new computer from scratch, then that'd be different. But I'm not, so I don't have to think about it ;)
 
i had an amd 1300 processor before, and i got a p4 because of the intel name.
 
HT for me, I think I'll give it a try. Sounds good anyway, I'll find out soon enough.
 
Didn't want to spend the money on upgrading my motherboard too. :rolleyes:





I'll be going A64 soon, though.
 
I needed something with high performance yet very low power dissipation. I found the Dothan Pentium M to be the perfect fit for my new custom-built SFF computer.
 
Intel Retail Deal;

3.0c
Intel 865 Mobo
WinXP Pro
$200 December 2003.

Couldnt beat the price and was a great upgrade from my Tbred 1700 Epox 8k7a set-up.

-=M=-
 
for me it was simply hyper-threading. I was tired of my 2400xp chugging in games because of things like p2p apps hashing or people leeching/viewing files in the background. Thats no longer an issue for me now.
 
AMD is for gaming.

And for everything else, theres intel. :D

also, add a little dash of HT for heavy users.
 
xonik said:
I needed something with high performance yet very low power dissipation. I found the Dothan Pentium M to be the perfect fit for my new custom-built SFF computer.
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sounds kickass, is there a discussion thread here about?
 
Cause I knew more about Intel's than I did AMD's when I built this (my first home built system)
 
I've been fond of Intel when I learned about computers, and I wanted to follow in my brother's footsteps by going with an Intel system as our own computers (we had to share a family computer, which is an AMD based computer). Our computers were almost similar in specs (but I built my computer a year later, with better technology) and the brands were "competitors" of the AMD machine (AMD-Intel, Western Digital-Maxtor, Nvidia-ATI, etc)
 
EnderW said:
sounds kickass, is there a discussion thread here about?
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It will kick ass, but as of right now, the case isn't ready. I have the parts, but don't yet have the time to build the case because of school. I am using a store-bought case at the moment, so if you still want to know about the hardware, I can make a thread. It's a Mini-ITX board with an ATi Radeon 9600, a pretty unique combination right now.
 
Found this on the Intel website. :)
Intel Delivers New Platform For PC Power Users, Gamers
New Processor, Chipset with Faster Bus Combine for 'Extreme' Speed

SANTA CLARA, Calif., Nov. 1, 2004 - Extreme gamers and media enthusiasts have a new set of high-performance products at their fingertips today as Intel Corporation introduced a new platform for people who like to push their PCs to the limit. The Intel® Pentium® 4 processor Extreme Edition supporting Hyper-Threading (HT) Technology and a higher-speed system bus enabled by the new Intel® 925XE Express chipset form the foundation of this new enthusiast platform.

"PC enthusiasts are enjoying more rich media and gaming content than ever as the PC becomes central to the digital home," said Bill Siu, Intel vice president and general manager of the Desktop Platforms Group. "The new 925XE Express chipset, combined with the Intel Pentium 4 processor Extreme Edition, is another example of the platform approach we're moving toward - bringing chipsets, processors and other components together to provide specific benefits to PC buyers."

The new Intel 925XE Express chipset platform is an extension of the popular and rapidly proliferating 915/925X Express chipset family launched earlier this year. A new 1066 MHz system bus-the main data path between the CPU and system memory-will bring enhanced levels of performance to the latest cutting-edge games and media tools that require extra horsepower. With a maximum data throughput improvement of up to 33 percent** between the CPU and system memory (compared with systems using an 800MHz system bus), a 1066 MHz system bus can enable faster frame rates for both gaming and video editing. This helps maintain smooth, realistic 3D gaming and glitch-free video in the heat of action.

The 925XE Express chipset family also includes the industry-leading features initially brought to the PC platform by the 915/925X Express chipsets such as Intel® High Definition Audio, fast DDR2 memory, and PCI Express* capabilities.

New Extreme Performance Levels
The Pentium 4 processor Extreme Edition at 3.46 GHz offers enhanced performance with a large two-megabyte Level 3 cache and HT Technology. A single Intel processor supporting HT Technology presents itself to newer operating systems and applications as two virtual processors. The processor can work on two sets of tasks simultaneously using resources that otherwise would sit idle, getting more work done in the same amount of time. Performance boosts vary and can reach up to 25 percent when the computer system has an Intel processor with HT Technology and enabled chipset, BIOS, operating system and application software.

With more than 60 million Intel processors featuring HT Technology sold and counting, more people are enjoying improved responsiveness when running multiple applications. For example, gamers often have simultaneous online chats with team members while gaming, and media enthusiasts typically work with several high-definition audio and video streams at the same time.

The 925XE Express chipset also implements improved memory timings compared to the 915 Express chipset, allowing power users to reach even higher levels of performance. Additional technical information about the Intel 925XE Express chipset is available at: http://developer.intel.com/design/chipsets.

Pricing and Availability
In addition to availability through computer manufacturers, Intel also is shipping the boxed Intel Pentium 4 processor Extreme Edition 3.46 GHz to Intel-authorized distributors for system integrators worldwide. In 1,000 unit quantities, the Pentium 4 processor Extreme Edition at 3.46 GHz sells for $999. For computer makers and system integrators, Intel also announced availability of the D925XECV2 and D925XEBC2 ATX and micro-ATX form factor desktop motherboards. Additional technical information on these desktop boards is available at: http://developer.intel.com/design/motherbd.

Intel, the world's largest chip maker, is also a leading manufacturer of computer, networking and communications products. Additional information about Intel is available at www.intel.com/pressroom.

Intel and Pentium are marks or registered trademarks of Intel Corporation or its subsidiaries in the United States and other countries.

* Other names and brands may be claimed as the property of others.

** Performance will vary based on system configuration. For more information on the performance of Intel products, visit www.intel.com/performance/resources/limits.htm.
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http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20041101comp.htm?iid=HPAGE+low_news_041103&
 
I haven't even finished putting my new stuff together and it's already outdated. Especially in a couple years with PCIe and DDR2.
 
kubalaTF said:
I haven't even finished putting my new stuff together and it's already outdated. Especially in a couple years with PCIe and DDR2.
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Thats what i just did with my 754 system....just think of it this way, buy what you can afford and think of it as the best, because if you keep trying to buy the best, you will waste so much money and the cycle will never end, so if you think that way, you will always be unhappy.
 
Why'd I pick Intel?

Billions of dollars of R&D may not make the fastest, but they sure as hell make the most stable system. AMD reliance on 3rd party chipset manufacturers is it's biggest downfall.
 
I guess i would have to say the samething, the HT and the new PCI Express format that is becoming more and more the mainstream. Well once i get all the parts to do build it that is.
And i to have the same thoughts as
kubalaTF
I haven't even finished putting my new stuff together and it's already outdated. Especially in a couple years with PCIe and DDR2.
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But i dont even have the parts yet :D
and this is true
ATI9700Pro
Thats what i just did with my 754 system....just think of it this way, buy what you can afford and think of it as the best, because if you keep trying to buy the best, you will waste so much money and the cycle will never end, so if you think that way, you will always be unhappy.
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Intel has always been great stable systems

Back in the K6-2 days those where dog slow compared to the P2's, even the K6-3 barely where competitive to the P2, then the P3 and K7 came out and tables turned on intel, the K7 might of been faster but not relaible for anything as the same did for the K5's and K6's. I have no idea how much more stable they are now, but venture to say its about the same.

I've owned P1's, Celeries, K6-2's, K7's, P3's, and currently a P4HT and will say the Pentiums have always been a reliable solution and not bad on performance.

I mean, for a multitasker like myself really grown on HT technology over a SMP system, who doesn't like to run two folding instances, bit-torrent, winamp, p2p, anti-virus, and play a game still at high detail with no jerking issues, i'd like to see the AMD's do that.
 
xonik said:
It will kick ass, but as of right now, the case isn't ready. I have the parts, but don't yet have the time to build the case because of school. I am using a store-bought case at the moment, so if you still want to know about the hardware, I can make a thread. It's a Mini-ITX board with an ATi Radeon 9600, a pretty unique combination right now.
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cool, I think you should start a thread, because it sounds pretty unique
 
Ever since the release of the Thunderbird 800Mhz Processor I have been using AMD.

TBird 800
TBird AXIA core 1Ghz @ 1400
Athlon XP 2000+
Athlon XP 2500+ @ 2800+

This last time, I chose Intel for my system. The last time I had an intel processor was a PIII 500Mhz Katami Core Slot 1 processor.

My main reason was we have P4 Dells at work with hyperthreading. It makes life so much more simple to use a processor with hyperthreading, at least for me. You cant describe it unless you use it and see for yourself. When it comes down to the wire and you have over 30 windows open and 10 - 15 different applications, you notice the surperior multi-tasking capabilities of a new Intel Processor.
 
funny cause ive used many of intel and AMD machines and ive never heard of a processor just going bad. as for dual channel, who gives a shit about a 3% performance increase. you say athlons run too hot? what about prescotts? they are deadly hot.

only time ive had a AMD processor go bad is when the hsf wasnt properly attached and running UT2K4 for 6 hours straight caused my computer to freeze and fail to boot because the temps were too hot. after turning off burn-shield for an hour did the processor overheat and die.

yes i used to think intel was king shit last year.however AMD has their A64 4000+ and new 55FX chips out which beat the shit outta the 3.6 EE or not. EE has to be the biggest BS processor ive seen, making people pay twice the normal amount for more cache.

with all the AMD processors and intel processors that ive used, ive never had problems with either. and when it comes to price AMD wins handsdown
 
because people are stupid :rolleyes:

seriously though, AMD kicks but and it does not cost as much
 
never had an intel fail one me.

what made it worse was one of my friends in high school wanted to build a computer so he got $2000 or so and bought an Athlon. 1st one didn't work, 2nd smoked, and 3rd smoked too. Chances are though because he shocked one of them to death because he doesn't get rid of the discharge, but man, that really made me and especially him not use Athlon before. probably more his fault than AMD's, but Intel does seem more idiot proof.
 
bountyhunter said:
actually, the new celerons OC nicely, and cost about as much as an axp
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Screw OCing, Celerons these days run as fast as 2-generation-old-durons. They are horrible.

~Adam
 
Bomber said:
Why'd I pick Intel?

Billions of dollars of R&D may not make the fastest, but they sure as hell make the most stable system. AMD reliance on 3rd party chipset manufacturers is it's biggest downfall.
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Back in the sub Ghz era of processors, I would have agreed with this statement. But the chipsets out now are top knotch. The nforce chipset is simply awsome IMO.

It did hurt AMD bigtime early on though. The VIA horror stories were all over.
 
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