Why can't someone make a case like this?

Chriz78

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I'll be building a new system within the next 6 months or so and one of the toughest things to choose for me has been the case. There are a lot of good cases out there but seems they always have some big flaw that I don't like about them. I'm mostly interested in the Lian-Li/SIlverstone aluminum style cases. Here is what I would really like to see from a case. Feel free to comment.

1). For the frame, I like black and it should be completely aluminum. Mid tower for the size. However, Silverstone uses a method which I prefer for their FT01 and I think some of their other models, it is made from a single piece of aluminum making it stronger and less parts are needed and from what I hear the panels themselves are thicker/stronger than other aluminum cases. Also, anything that can be done to eliminate fingerprints or at least make them not so obvious would be good. I have worked on a Lian-Li A05B and it was pretty bad in that aspect.

2). Front I/O panel. I am really sick of seeing the front I/O panel on the top of the case instead of the front. I know some people like to have their cases on the floor but I prefer having it on the desk because of easier accessibility and less dust. Some good examples to use are like the Cooler Master HAF 932, Lian-Li PC-8B, PC60 Series, PC-A6010B. A bad example would be the FT01, not only is that on the top but it's in a hard to reach position and not ideal for USB flash drives. Also, eSATA should for sure be part of the front panel.

3). Power/reset buttons. Same deal as I/O panel, would like it be on the front, not the top.

4). Bays/Cages. I know for me I only need like two 5 1/4" drive bays, so I think the case should have three of these bays (tool less) to accommodate other things like sound card accessories and temperature monitors. I see so many cases with 4-6 of these bays and it seems like a waste of space.

For the HDD cages, I think a good idea is to have two cages, both tool less and removable. One would fit four 3.5" drives, the other would fit four 2.5" inch SSD drives, which I have never seen a case have before. For these two cages, I prefer them to sit sideways to make them easier to swap and to allow longer video cards. A good example is the Lian-Li A6010B and a bunch of their other newer cases.

Also, there should be one external 3.5" tool less bay for media card readers, etc.

5). Fans. I prefer that the case only have fans between 120mm and 180mm size because anything smaller than that can get noisy and not be very efficient with airflow, and anything bigger usually means the case has to be bigger too (or at least in some places). I prefer not to have fans on the side panels myself.

6). Modularity. I would like to see the side panels and front panel removable. Also, a removable motherboard tray would be nice. All tool less design of course, with thumb screws or any other ingenious designs that can be thought of. Also, a place to run the interior cables behind to keep the clutter free is a necessity.

That's about all I can think of right now. Their are of course othe aspects to a case but I am more open to them..the above items concern me the most. I just wish a manufacturer would make a case with all or most of those features.
 
In no apparent order...

4. There are hotswap bays for 4 - 2.5" drives that fits in a single 5.25" bay (sata ssd or hdd, or mix-n-match) such as here... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816119006

2. IO panel. My suggestion is find one you like that fits in a 3.5" or 5.25" bay, or make your own, and just ignore what the case comes with. If it's top mounted and has a door to cover it then just close the door and move on. :) Here's an example, but I'm sure you could find one that fits your needs better. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820132021

6. Thumb screws? Buy 10 for $1.59, then get any case you want. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16800881303

That should help you narrow down your requirements to size, colour, materials and layout... the important stuff. The rest is cosmetic, and easily enough changed.
 
2). Front I/O panel. I am really sick of seeing the front I/O panel on the top of the case instead of the front. I know some people like to have their cases on the floor but I prefer having it on the desk because of easier accessibility and less dust. Some good examples to use are like the Cooler Master HAF 932, Lian-Li PC-8B, PC60 Series, PC-A6010B. A bad example would be the FT01, not only is that on the top but it's in a hard to reach position and not ideal for USB flash drives. Also, eSATA should for sure be part of the front panel.

Cases are dropping firewire more and more now (even Apple has dropped it from its new notebooks, Nanos) and including eSata (going power through cable soon like USB). Cases with firewire look like antiques to me now.
 
Cases are dropping firewire more and more now (even Apple has dropped it from its new notebooks, Nanos) and including eSata (going power through cable soon like USB). Cases with firewire look like antiques to me now.

i don't even recall owning 1 product that connected via firewire.
 
i don't even recall owning 1 product that connected via firewire.

My 3G iPod did, but that's been in the great landfill in the sky for a very long time now... Other then that I know some friends who use firewire with video cameras. That's it. I think if it wasn't for video cameras firewire would have been gone a long time ago. Now that USB3 is around the corner they may switch to that and firewire HDs are obsolete with eSATA.

If Apple only hadn't decided to charge that $1 per port royalty when the spec was released it could be everywhere now and not destined for the history books...
 
i don't even recall owning 1 product that connected via firewire.

Video-cameras... it's all you really need it for now adays... Firewire has isochronous real-time data transfer... somethin USB doesn't have which makes USB unreliable for video capture.

Only thing I use it for, I'll be pissed when I have to buy a firewire card for newer motherboards if they phase it out =/
 
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He is a forum member on [H]ere, but he's not on all that often

Check with him, his [H] nick-name is ----> markkleb <----

His work is Tha BOMB I don't mind tellin ya, and a great guy, he'll hook you up ;)
 
firewire > usb

- far less cpu overhead
- 30v over the cable for powered devices
- guaranteed sustained transfer rates and QoS
- ability to daisy chain devices and have mixed branch type configurations
- isochronous transfers as already mentioned
- live connection and disconnection without data loss

Though USB 3.0 looks like it's going to be quite a bit better in many aspects..
 
Video-cameras... it's all you really need it for now adays... Firewire has isochronous real-time data transfer... somethin USB doesn't have which makes USB unreliable for video capture.

Only thing I use it for, I'll be pissed when I have to buy a firewire card for newer motherboards if they phase it out =/

Not a big deal, you can get a Firewire 400 card for less than $10 these days.
 
I am using firewire right now for an external hard drive but only because this is an old PC and it does not have eSata. For my next computer, I will not really care about it.
 
Video-cameras... it's all you really need it for now adays... Firewire has isochronous real-time data transfer... somethin USB doesn't have which makes USB unreliable for video capture.

Only thing I use it for, I'll be pissed when I have to buy a firewire card for newer motherboards if they phase it out =/


They left firewire off the new Asus i7 workstation mobo - and they didn't include a pci add-on version either.
 
They left firewire off the new Asus i7 workstation mobo - and they didn't include a pci add-on version either.

Yea the problem is PCI slots are being scarce.

On my i7 build with a p6t deluxe Iw as looking at, with SLI and GTX 280's I had enough room for the cards, sound-card, and Intel PCI-e x 1 Gigabit...
 
firewire > usb

- far less cpu overhead
- 30v over the cable for powered devices
- guaranteed sustained transfer rates and QoS
- ability to daisy chain devices and have mixed branch type configurations
- isochronous transfers as already mentioned
- live connection and disconnection without data loss

Though USB 3.0 looks like it's going to be quite a bit better in many aspects..

True, i find it funny that people look at firewire like its a parallel port, its anything but! I have several firewire devices still, including a firewire drive that i can put anything that takes parallel ata in. That thing has been great for testing lots of bunk hardware, and i still have my old audigy that has the firewire interface.
 
Silverstone uses a method which I prefer for their FT01 and I think some of their other models, it is made from a single piece of aluminum making it stronger and less parts are needed and from what I hear the panels themselves are thicker/stronger than other aluminum cases.
Such single piece frame bended from simple flat sheet must be thicker to be equally strong without additional reinforcements. (two dimensional flat panel is lot weaker than one with edges bent to 90 degree angle)

Agree about upward pointing top position being the worst compromise: with case on table they're hard to reach, with case below table they're hard to reach and there might not be much space for plugging cable/device to them.
From fixed positions front top would be best compromise and CM Stacker's movable 5.25" module is very good fit to configurable all 5.25" designs. (module available in CM's Europe part shop)
But most multifunction panels have also USB ports so not that big problem... and headphones go to sound card's own I/O panel with volume control knob.

4). Bays/Cages. I know for me I only need like two 5 1/4" drive bays, so I think the case should have three of these bays (tool less)
Most tool less systems make it very hard to mount short devices like fan controllers so better to have always working screws than some haphazardly done tool less system. (aren't many of these tool less systems patented?)
Also external 3.5" bays are rather pointless, you can fit more functions to 5.25" device:
http://www.techwarelabs.com/reviews/display/aerocool_fp-01/
(solving that lack of front I/O problem)

I would like to see the side panels and front panel removable. Also, a removable motherboard tray would be nice.
Also, a place to run the interior cables behind to keep the clutter free is a necessity.
A70 and A7010 have front panel held by spring loaded clips for quick access to intake air filters. (heavy door of A71/7110 needs screws)
And if you want space for all cables behind motherboard tray that "rises" motherboard tray leaving smaller space for big tower heatsinks without increasing width of case. It's all question of where you want to compromise.
With some work it's generally possible to arrange cables neatly if case just has free space where to put them:
http://www.nordichardware.com/skrivelser_img/532/A71_20.jpg
 
For the HDD cages, I think a good idea is to have two cages, both tool less and removable. One would fit four 3.5" drives, the other would fit four 2.5" inch SSD drives, which I have never seen a case have before.
You don't need a traditional "cage" for SSD's.
Producing no heat or vibration, they can just be affixed to any vacant flat surface and be fine.

The original Stacker (by far the best of the series, IMO) had the front I/O panel of your dreams- not only front mount mounted, it could be placed anywhere from the top to the bottom of the fascia. It had the ON/OFF and Reset buttons as well as the USB/audio and Firewire ports all in one package.

The Silverstone TJ-06 has front buttons and the I/O ports positioned in the lower side of the front bezel. I recently added eSATA to mine and the positioning is perfect if the case is desk mounted and on your right.

It's unlikely you'll find the "perfect" case.
Best bet is to find one that meets most of your requirements and then make it fit the rest.
 
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