I previously had the FPD2185W and now have the FPD2485W, for some reason when I sit and look at the screen dead center everything on the left side of the screen looks brighter or lighter than on the right. A good example would be these forums and the gray horizontal bars. If i move my head to the left about 3-4 inches the whole screen looks about even. I know it's something to do with these gateways because I tried 3 different 2185's before giving up and figured that the 2485 would be different but it has the same affect. I have a samsung 204b, 915n and a dell laptop that do not exhibit this behaviour. Also I have seen this using 2 different pc's and several different DVI cables and with the lights off to eliminate any hardware or outside light source issue. Has anyone else noticed this and if so is it common on the panel type they use?.
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Its a standard *VA problem (s-pva, pva, mva, s-mva, p-mva etc).
They have a "dead angle" at center that differs from angles.
http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1030557243&postcount=28
You can see this more graphical illustrated in the "Dell Censors Panel lottery" thread here:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1111100
Its a panel type weakness due to crystal positioning. You cannot calibrate it away. You are one of those sensitive to it. Your options are either to get used to it or change screen.
They have a "dead angle" at center that differs from angles.
http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1030557243&postcount=28
You can see this more graphical illustrated in the "Dell Censors Panel lottery" thread here:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1111100
Its a panel type weakness due to crystal positioning. You cannot calibrate it away. You are one of those sensitive to it. Your options are either to get used to it or change screen.
Its a standard *VA problem (s-pva, pva, mva, s-mva, p-mva etc).
They have a "dead angle" at center that differs from angles.
http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1030557243&postcount=28
You can see this more graphical illustrated in the "Dell Censors Panel lottery" thread here:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1111100
Its a panel type weakness due to crystal positioning. You cannot calibrate it away. You are one of those sensitive to it. Your options are either to get used to it or change screen.
Yeah, my 2007WFP had it and I couldn't stand it, returned it. It made solid colors (like the red bars between posts on this forum) look like gradients.
I ended up getting an LG L204WT and really like it. It's a TN panel, so I guess that explains why it doesn't have that problem.
Well that sucks, I was all set to take my chances getting a Benq 241W with the updated firmware and no dead pixels and return this 2485 to BB. Now that It's likely the Benq will do the same thing there's not much point.
The problem now is finding a monitor with 1900X1200'ish resolution without a VA based panel that's also gotten decent reviews. Although it's almost too big does the Westy 37W3 have this issue because I see it uses an MVA panel? Any suggestions on a quality 24" for gaming that doesn't exhibit this problem (at this point I'm willing to pay a premium)?
The problem now is finding a monitor with 1900X1200'ish resolution without a VA based panel that's also gotten decent reviews. Although it's almost too big does the Westy 37W3 have this issue because I see it uses an MVA panel? Any suggestions on a quality 24" for gaming that doesn't exhibit this problem (at this point I'm willing to pay a premium)?
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The Dell 27" is S-PVA. P-MVA also have this problem unfortunately and even the Eizo S-PVA have this problem.
Its the main reason why I steer away from those panels myself. I ordered a NEC 26" (25,5") to replace my belowed f2304 (which goes to my wife). The only review I could find about that screen was on Behardware.com. Unfortunately, it seems like the guy reviewing it forgot to enable the overdrive before running the pixperan test on it. Its build upon a 6 ms LG-Phillips S-IPS panel with NEC's own enchantments like rapid response (overdrive which is off by default) and other features. Specs states it should be great for gaming, but that remains to be seen
It has great viewing angles without the image shifts of the VA's.
If you liked the old panels you listed, which didn't have the problem you are describing, they are all TN's. Check out the 22" TN panels if you want something cheaper then the NEC that doesn't have image shifts.
Edit: The Samsung 226BW looks like an interesting option among the 22" to consider.
Its the main reason why I steer away from those panels myself. I ordered a NEC 26" (25,5") to replace my belowed f2304 (which goes to my wife). The only review I could find about that screen was on Behardware.com. Unfortunately, it seems like the guy reviewing it forgot to enable the overdrive before running the pixperan test on it.
Its build upon a 6 ms LG-Phillips S-IPS panel with NEC's own enchantments like rapid response (overdrive which is off by default) and other features. Specs states it should be great for gaming, but that remains to be seen It has great viewing angles without the image shifts of the VA's.
If you liked the old panels you listed, which didn't have the problem you are describing, they are all TN's. Check out the 22" TN panels if you want something cheaper then the NEC that doesn't have image shifts.
Edit: The Samsung 226BW looks like an interesting option among the 22" to consider.
The main thing is I'm really wanting to go with a 24" and or 1920X1200/1920X1080 resolutions, no real reason why other than I like the size/resolution.
If it wasn't for this issue I would most likely keep the 2485 as it is actually quite nice to look at and game with. I got lucky and have minimal backlight bleed, no dead pixels, no humming or any of the other problems others have posted so far with it. It is a december model with version 4.2 so that may be why. The only other thing is text seems to be a little on the fuzzy side compared to my 204b but that may be fixable by calibration which I havent done yet.
If it wasn't for this issue I would most likely keep the 2485 as it is actually quite nice to look at and game with. I got lucky and have minimal backlight bleed, no dead pixels, no humming or any of the other problems others have posted so far with it. It is a december model with version 4.2 so that may be why. The only other thing is text seems to be a little on the fuzzy side compared to my 204b but that may be fixable by calibration which I havent done yet.
Was the 26" NEC you ordered a LCD2690WUXi-BK-SV?
After looking at that monitor the only downside's I can see is the lack of inputs (it would be nice if it had more) and of course the price. I understand it's target use and can live with that as I would not be using it for anything but my pc anyway. Also the fact that it uses an ips panel would get me away from my "left side lighter" issue.
If you have any other information you have gleaned about this monitor please share as I am seriously considering buying one as well. I wonder since this is a higher end monitor if NEC would honor some sort of zero dead pixel policy on it?
After looking at that monitor the only downside's I can see is the lack of inputs (it would be nice if it had more) and of course the price. I understand it's target use and can live with that as I would not be using it for anything but my pc anyway. Also the fact that it uses an ips panel would get me away from my "left side lighter" issue.
If you have any other information you have gleaned about this monitor please share as I am seriously considering buying one as well. I wonder since this is a higher end monitor if NEC would honor some sort of zero dead pixel policy on it?
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Its a LCD2690WUXI-BK
I'm going to write a review on it here in the widescreen gamer's point of view.
There is also a 24" version of it (only available on the US market I think), with an S-IPS panel. It has a normal gammut instead of the increased one of the 26" though. But, you will on the other hand get a lower pixel pitch, which would mean sharper image.
These screens will give you little to no image shifts and are the closest you'll get to CRT when it comes to viewing angles.
The text can be sharpened through several steps on your screen. Increase DPI, set the font to "cleartype". Download microsoft cleartype tuning (or use the online version). If you don't know where to find the different things, I can write it down step by step if you wish.
I'm going to write a review on it here in the widescreen gamer's point of view.
There is also a 24" version of it (only available on the US market I think), with an S-IPS panel. It has a normal gammut instead of the increased one of the 26" though. But, you will on the other hand get a lower pixel pitch, which would mean sharper image.
These screens will give you little to no image shifts and are the closest you'll get to CRT when it comes to viewing angles.
The text can be sharpened through several steps on your screen. Increase DPI, set the font to "cleartype". Download microsoft cleartype tuning (or use the online version). If you don't know where to find the different things, I can write it down step by step if you wish.