which would you rather have: AA or AF?

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grifter

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i see some people set their af higher than aa but i personally like trading off more aa for af
 
both as high as i can

IMO AF should be a given now with every game, i always have 16X or 8X AF enabled, i cannot live without it, blurry textures just don't do it for me, i can pick up real quick if AF is on or not and if it is not it drives me crazy

jagged edges also drive me crazy, but if I had to lower my AA down to 2X to enable 8X AF i'd go that route instead of 4X AA and no AF

no AF just looks fugly
 
yep, definitly both, that´s why i bought a SLI setup in the first place
 
Minimum 2xAA, 8xAF is my standard. Resolution varies with performance.

I find 2xAA is enough to kill most jaggies, and 8xAF is decent looking.
 
heh...I run 6x AA 16x AF w/ Temproal/Adaptive AA...though I would have to say AF...the way the ground ahead of you looks without is disturbing :(
 
AF. AA is overrated. Im to busy enjoying the game to worry about fucking "jaggy" edges.
 
i'd rather have the AF, i like to see the shit they ment us to see the way it should be seen, i can get over jaggy edges, after a while of intense gaming i don't even notice them, plus if i'm gaming on 1280x1024+ resolutions its pretty hard to notice the jaggies
 
Phantron said:
AF. AA is overrated. Im to busy enjoying the game to worry about fucking "jaggy" edges.
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AA can help clean up views in the distance as well though, if there are a lot of aliased objects in the distance, it ends up looking "messy" with no AA, but turn on a high degree of AA and objects in the distance don't look "messy" or "shimmery"

so both AA and AF are effective and improving the IQ in a game
 
Phantron said:
AF. AA is overrated. Im to busy enjoying the game to worry about fucking "jaggy" edges.
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To play F.E.A.R. at 1024x768 with no AA is to know suffering.......

-wil
 
pigwalk said:
To play F.E.A.R. at 1024x768 with no AA is to know suffering.......

-wil
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Or being just to fucking picky. If I want no jaggies, i'll go look outside my window. In a sythesized world, I could care less.
 
Phantron said:
Or being just to fucking picky. If I want no jaggies, i'll go look outside my window. In a sythesized world, I could care less.
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ROFLMFAO I just blew my soda all over, that comment is just funny as hell !!!! Guess when you do look out the window and see jaggies it would be a sign someone is in deep DooDoo LOL
 
bigredhog said:
ROFLMFAO I just blew my soda all over that comment just hit me funny!!!! Guess when you do look out the window and see jaggies it would be a sign someone is in deep DooDoo LOL
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And your sig is like 100 lines too long. 10 Max.


I prefer AF over AA if I had to choose, Quake 4 is a good example of a game that needs AF, play multiplayer with no AF, you'll go insane.

That game doesn't really need AA, since the multiplayer is so fast you don't have time to see the jaggies.
 
Could someone tell me what the differance is in the two, i have read the previos posts and it tells me that AF has to deal with the draw distance (cleaner textures from further away)? and AA? what exactly do they do? sorry to sound like such a noob, but time to learn this stuff. like i said, all i really know is it makes the game look better. Thanks.
 
Hmm, tough one. Jaggies don't really bother me unless i'm looking at the game as a pic. When i'm actually playing the game, I don't notice em. AF on the other hand, I can't stand blurry textures. If I had to choose I would go AF.

But aliasing affects some games more than others, so then the preference would swap.
 
i also wanted to through in i hate other types of aliasing as well like shader aliasing, texture aliasing, etc...

I want 32X angle independent AF and 16X Super Sample AA :D
 
you guys are telling me this doesnt bother you?

no aa no af
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4x aa no af [edit] i guess it is 4x af? [/edit]
shot00001.jpg
 
I'm kinda of an IQ noob, but I noticed jaggies a lot more than blurry textures, untill I discovered AF, man what a world of difference. I play on 2x-4x AA and 8x AF, 2x AA is enough to cover up most of the really ugly jaggies. I can't play with out AF anymore.
 
I want both, AA and AF

something is wrong with the texture quality in your pics grifter, looks very low
 
In the heat of battle I don't notice jaggies as much. And AF seems to kill my FPS lesser.
 
Brent_Justice said:
I want both, AA and AF

something is wrong with the texture quality in your pics grifter, looks very low
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first pic is 9800pro medium settings
second is x850xtpe high settings. i tried ultra but i couldnt tell a difference
 
grifter said:
first pic is 9800pro medium settings
second is x850xtpe high settings. i tried ultra but i couldnt tell a difference
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something doesn't look right with that gun texture in the second pic

turn on 4X AF and see what that looks like

BTW, in Quake 4 turning on High Quality by default enables 4X AF, as long as you have "Application Preference" checked in the control panel, make sure to use the in-game AA settings, and don't force AA or AF from the control panel in that game
 
Phantron said:
Or being just to fucking picky. If I want no jaggies, i'll go look outside my window. In a sythesized world, I could care less.
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Obviously on an enthusiast forum, nobody is going to agree with that opinion. The average person may think like you do, but then again, the average person uses X300's and 9600SE's :p .
 
Well, depends on the game... something with lots of foliage requires 2xAA at minimum... and since AF is a very minimal impact on performance, it's typically on anyhow.
 
I agree with most who say that 2x AA and 8x AF is the way to go, with minimal performance loss with decent IQ... I use 2x Temporal AA, and usually 8-16x AF (I havent noticed a difference in performance or IQ between the two.. /shrug). But if I had to go with one, 8x AF. Although, it does depend on the game.
 
pigwalk said:
To play F.E.A.R. at 1024x768 with no AA is to know suffering.......

-wil
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I dont like to watch a game as a slideshow, so I had to turn off AA in fear :(. That game really breaks my rigs balls... wow. But the game looks like shit without AA, really jagged edges are *very* distracting.

But since I have no clue what AF is, I usually run 4-8x AA in most of my games.
 
Brent_Justice said:
something doesn't look right with that gun texture in the second pic

turn on 4X AF and see what that looks like

BTW, in Quake 4 turning on High Quality by default enables 4X AF, as long as you have "Application Preference" checked in the control panel, make sure to use the in-game AA settings, and don't force AA or AF from the control panel in that game
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from tweakguides
image_anisotropy [1,2,4,8] - This setting determines the level of Anisotropic Filtering used in Quake 4. Valid values are 1, 2, 4, and 8. The higher the value, the lower your performance, but the crisper textures will appear in the distance. Note that 1 is the lowest you can set for Anisotropic - 0 will simply default back to 1. Also note that if you have forced Anisotropic Filtering in your graphics card's control panel, it will override this setting, so for optimal performance set the Anisotropic Filtering level in your control panel to 'Application Preference', and adjust the level here. Finally, note that when using High or Ultra Video Quality, this is set to 8 by default, however you can adjust it downwards without affecting the other beneficial aspects of those video quality modes.
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and i never set aa or af from ctrl panel, always in game
 
AF > AA hands down IMO, infact i CANT STAND AA in some games... NFS MW it seems to make everything dull... first noticed it in a game called RYL, the "screen effect" added mild AA and some other effects, i went without :p and in NFSU 2 and NFS MW it just seems to blur everything and make the colors crap and boring unless its at max and the performanc ehit aint worth it. AF all the way.
 
If I run it it's going to be both and I wouldn't choose if I want my settings low both are off otherwise both are cranked.
 
Brent_Justice said:
trust me, High Quality is 4X AF and Ultra Quality is 8X AF
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old pic (high setting)
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ultra setting
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can someone else get a screen cap to see what i dont have?
 
grifter said:
old pic (high setting)
[lMG]http://www.reaction-image.net/albums/grifter/shot00001.jpg[/IMG]

ultra setting
[lMG]http://www.reaction-image.net/albums/grifter/shot00008.jpg[/IMG]

can someone else get a screen cap to see what i dont have?
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seems your drivers IQ settings is not set to a Quality/High Quality setting

If you want to know how to change it, you must specify whether you're running nV or ATI
 
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