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Presently in the throws of updating my computing and trying to dope out the os.
Many here have given much credit to using Vista 64 bit. Problem is, I can't seem to find a retail version of Vista 64 bit at the Egg or Amazon. I'm assuming that I have to get OEM 64 bit, 32 bit and send for the 64bit disk, or Vista Ultimate. It doesn't seem to make much sense to install an oem version of a fairly new release of an os to a new build. If I get 32 bit and send for the 64 bit, I wind up with a redundent install on my computer. Or uninstall the 32 bit, which seems like a waste.
Ultimate? Many of you seem to be favoring this version. What is it that I would be getting beside the ability to add a whole bunch more ram?
Would a dual boot of 32/64 bit be advantageous?
Sorry for all the questions, but as is obvious, I am still a bit of a noob. :eek:
I am hoping for some concrete direction here as I will most likely be ordering up the rest of my parts in the coming week.
My last os was XP Pro oem. So, I won't be transferring that to the new machine.
Appreciate any feedback.
Scratch-
 
I bought and installed Home Premium x64 (OEM) on my new build less than a week ago. I don't see what's particularly wrong with it. Personally, I think Ultimate is a waste unless you're actually going to use the business and enterprise features. You rarely use them in a home setting. I guess it can be said that it is a bit of a novelty item though.

Also, Vista isn't that new. They already have SP1 out. It's certainly not as developed as XP but it seems to be fine with the new hardware. Why are you afraid of the OEM version? From what I understand, it's just different packaging (and may not transfer to other computers). But on a new build, you'll probably not get another new computer until after a new version of Windows is released...
 
OK, Vista disc has all versions on it, you choose what to install or put in your product key and it chooses for you based on what they key is for.

Just buy a OEM Vista x64 on eBay and install it.
 
Thank you for responding gentlemen.
ethraax- Thanks for your info and experience.
I'm not afraid (per se) of oem. I am questioning my own purchase of XP "oem" since the mb quit on my last build. Had I gotten the retail version, I most likely would have installed that on the next pc for a couple more years.
Thanks bigdogchris.
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Vista Ultimate includes both x32 and x64 disks. The other versions of Vista are 32 bit; you have to get a 64 bit disk from MS for the price of shipping. The only drawback for the OEM versions is it can only be installed on one computer-no changing the mobo and reinstalling. It is the same as when buying a nw computer with an OS installed--you cannot install it on another computer. This is the legal statement of the OEM license; you are not supposed to change it from PC to PC.
 
I agree with the claim that the Ultimate edition is largely useless to most home users. If you buy any of the OEM editions of Vista, you must specify which of the bit's you want, either 32 or 64 (at least at Newegg). Also, you cannot contact MS and have them send you a 64 bit version if you bought the 32 bit OEM of Vista. If you buy the full retail editions of Vista, they include both 32 and 64 bit versions in the packaging. Users purchasing the upgrade editions will have 32 bit software only, unless they buy the Ultimate edition or contact MS. Every Vista disc is identical, the product code is what determines which software you get.
 
There is no advantage to Vista 64 over Vista 32 for gaming. In fact, most 32-bit games run slightly faster on 32bit. However, if you play Far Cry, Hg:L and soon, Crysis - games with a 64 bit pathway, you will get about 15% improvement just for running 64 bit

Ultimate seems a waste unless you need the extra features. and Vista is relatively cheap, so i got an OEM copy of Vista 32 Home Premium. I would not mind having Vista 64 either; Vista 64 might be a problem only if you have older HW that do not have signed drivers for it; or have 16-bit aps.

If you use more than 4GB of RAM, Vista 64 is a no brainer.
 
DJBPace07 said:
If you buy the full retail editions of Vista, they include both 32 and 64 bit versions in the packaging.
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That is incorrect. This holds true only with ultimate; the other versions are still a 32-bit disc with 64-bit orderable only.
 
Scratch said:
Thank you for responding gentlemen.
ethraax- Thanks for your info and experience.
I'm not afraid (per se) of oem. I am questioning my own purchase of XP "oem" since the mb quit on my last build. Had I gotten the retail version, I most likely would have installed that on the next pc for a couple more years.
Thanks bigdogchris.
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Ah, I see where you're coming from. How old was your other computer though? I mean most of the parts should be under warranty if you're buying a new system. If you have to RMA your motherboard after installing the OEM copy, can't you install it ont he new one, assuming it's the same model motherboard? I've never had issues with hardware like that (all my computers just get too old to run as smoothly as I like) so I don't know >.>
 
Thank you gentlemen:
Good, usable, info.
Most likely will go for the retail version. I like the idea of having both versions available.
Presently, I'm looking at sites and forums for the games and sims that I enjoy and will want to play.
Primarily:
CFS 3 (OFF mod)
BOB (WOV)
IL 2 Pacific Fighters
GPL
I also have about 2 years of catching up to do with FPS including Half Life 2.
A personal accident and computer crash put be out of commission for a while. So your help is greatly appreciated.
If I find a lot of grief with Vista, I'll revert to XP or dual boot XP/Vista.
Scratch-
 
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ethraax-
Caught your reply after my last post ethraax.
My last computer was a home build:
Asus P4te, 2 gig Intel, with a gig of Rambus. XP Pro oem.
A shop accident messed up my left hand. I dropped the machine when I tried to lift it. (dumb) Fans go on when I plug it in, but it won't post. Tried another mobo, but I got the same deal. So I'm going to build another machine rather than mess with it. Its a bit old now, in any case.
Hand is on the mend, but I'll be gaming with a gaming device, like a 360, in the future.
Scratch-
 
Vista Ultimate / business comes with the remote desktop connection tool. If I don't get those versions does that mean I'm out of luck and won't be able to install that program at all?
 
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