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Looking for a solid overclocker. Was thinking about the EVGA P55 FTW or MSI GD80. Will be running an i5 750 to hopefully 4ghz on air. trying to spend ~200$. Thx for any advice.
 
I bought the MSI GD80 after a lot of reading and research. I'm building the computer in two days so I guess I could let you know how everything went. I must say though. It's definitely the best looking motherboard I've ever owned and well I guess you could put the one button overclocking feature to the test on that i5 750 without much hassle if all goes well :) Heck... read the [H]ard review. It speaks for itself :)
 
I bought the MSI GD80 after a lot of reading and research. I'm building the computer in two days so I guess I could let you know how everything went. I must say though. It's definitely the best looking motherboard I've ever owned and well I guess you could put the one button overclocking feature to the test on that i5 750 without much hassle if all goes well :) Heck... read the [H]ard review. It speaks for itself :)

I read the review. One of the main reasons i am considering this board. I wish they would have learned from EVGA on the heatsink mounting holes so my 775 TRUE would bolt in without the need of a different bracket. ahh well.
 
Using the FTW in my rig. Not sure about MSI but the EVGA forums are awesome. Only thing I hate about the FTW is the double boot which powers the system on and off twice but apparently they're working to fix that.
 
Best board buy right now in my opinion is the MSI GD65. Hard to beat the value in that.
 
Picked up the GD65, i5 750, Corsair XMS3 C8 4gb, and Prolimatech heatsink. Hopefully I can hit close to 4ghz and make this upgrade worth it over my current rig. I do a lot of Audio/Video converting from VOB to divx so hopefully this helps.
 
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Picked up the GD65, i5 750, Corsair XMS3 C8 4gb, and Prolimatech heatsink. Hopefully I can hit close to 4ghz and make this upgrade worth it over my current rig. I do a lot of Audio converting from VOB to divx so hopefully this helps.


I would like to hear you guys results and thoughts!
 
Got it built.. push button OC Genie took it to 3.57ghz lol... pretty damn cool. Still have to get it loaded but need to get the Intel drives wiped clean and figure out the RAID setup. Does this thing have an Intel Raid Controller? Damn manual sucks.. only explains half the bios. Either way its looking good so far. I have an antec spot cooler on the small sink at the bottom of the board.


EDIT: Got the Raid working and it picked up my old array and booted into Win7 then loaded all the driver on its own. My overall performance even at 3.57ghz is down compared to my last setup. I am sure it needs a reload. Vantage CPU score is ~300points higher vs my 4gh Q9650. I know this isnt a clock for clock comparison but I expected better. I wont pass be to quick to judge it though as I need to get a fresh OS load on it and get the clock up to 4ghz. Also the 3.57ghz was achieved by 210x17 which I saw on the POST Screen. What are my chances of getting 210x20 stable on air 24/7? Temps are great so far but I havent loaded it much. Idles in the upper 20s low 30s even at 1.4V.
 
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So far I got it to 211x19 for 4ghz and 1688mhz on ram with 8-8-8-24 timings. I can run 3dmark Vantage and pass it. Will start finding my lowest stable voltage. Setting Vdroop to low ends up over volting the CPU.. which under load makes sense to me for stability. VTT is at 1.31V and ram is 1.68 I believe. I was told PCH should go to 1.9V? I cant find that setting in the bios. Will try 4.2ghz now :)
 
hmmm i would just like to say i have very similar specs but havent hooked up my megahalem yet.... please get to 4.0 ghz so i can be satisfied lol
 
4ghz shouldnt be hard.. im shooting for 210x20.. I failed prime 17min in and failed linpack test. I havent changed very many settings so I have some playing to do. Anyone know max safe voltage on this CPU?


EDIT: 4.2 was close to stable but wanted more voltage then I wanted to run daily so now im doing 20x200 to make it as stable as possible. Linpack tests are fast so I try to use it to find my lowest stable voltage I can pass that with.. this gives me a good starting point with Prime95. I know if it fails I just take small bumps up after that until I reach lowest stable voltage. So far max linpack temps are 71C but this is also because my fan is setup to throttle up after its over 65C which keeps my setup quiet under light loads and only spins up high when needed. Max Prime temp was 65C after an 8 hour run.

ONLY SETTINGS I TOUCHED: BIOS 1.5
20x200 = 4ghz
Vdroop - Low (when set to high the V-droop is a lot and meant I had to feed much more voltage for stability)
CPU V = 1.376 (Actual voltage 1.392 - 1.416, It raises under load which I am not used to) . This passed 5 Linpack Cycles, 3 Vantage runs and 8 hours of Prime 95.
CPUVTT = 1.25
DRAM V = 1.651
C1E = disabled
EIST = disabled (this also disables Turbo Boost)
C-state = Disabled
Overspeed protection = disabled
Green Power = disabeled
RAM - 8-8-8-24 1600mhz

Turbo Mode? I will have to dig back through the bios as I did not see it.. should this be disabled?
 
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It looks good to :)

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get the GIGABYTE P55M-UD4. [H] did a review on it. oc's pretty well. seems pretty nice. i've personally liked gigabyte, especially their new offerings for corei7.
 
get the GIGABYTE P55M-UD4. [H] did a review on it. oc's pretty well. seems pretty nice. i've personally liked gigabyte, especially their new offerings for corei7.

You should probably read the thread.. I already got the MSI GD65.....
 
UPDATE: Got a hold of the latest intel burn in test and found that on maximum I failed. I gave it one more bump in voltage and it passed. This system isn't as snappy in windows as my old Q9650 at 4ghz. Things hesitate just a bit. Even the 3dmark Vantage test shows this. Before with my other CPU when vantage would go back to desktop before going into the next test it would only sit on desktop a split second.. it was a blink of an eye moment. Now it sits there for a good 7-8 seconds. Also COD isnt launching as fast. Its still very fast but not a fluid as my old setup. I have not reloaded the OS so I am hoping this is the problem. So far all my benchmarks are inline. Also found out I should disable Overspeed protection and disable the Green power as well when overclocking.
 
Thanks for the continual updates. A reliable inside source tells me "Santa" is bringing me this board with an i5 as well as Corsairs XMS3 1600. . . I'll have to see if i can get close to your numbers : )
 
Thanks for the continual updates. A reliable inside source tells me "Santa" is bringing me this board with an i5 as well as Corsairs XMS3 1600. . . I'll have to see if i can get close to your numbers : )

4ghz seems to be pretty easy to hit but of course every chip is different. Good luck and let me know how it goes :) Also, I found out when you disable EIST the Turbo Boost option doesn't show in the Bios any longer. I did confirm this.
 
I don't know why you went with the 750. You should unload that Cpu and go get a 860 :)
 
I don't know why you went with the 750. You should unload that Cpu and go get a 860 :)

I was thinking the same thing but there are so many reviews that show there isn't much difference for what I use my box for. I also read the 860 doesnt OC as easily and this thing hit 4ghz no problem.
 
Im getting pretty much the same build as you.

Id be content with getting 3.5-3.6 off OC genie though
 
I don't know why you went with the 750. You should unload that Cpu and go get a 860 :)

Why? the only difference really is the enabling of hyperthreading. With most games today not even being able to utilize all 4 cores the only real use for the extra 4 threads would be extreme multi-tasking or video editing and the like. Doesn't sound like a great way to toss an extra $100, could be better spent on a better video card, better mobo, etc.
 
Why? the only difference really is the enabling of hyperthreading. With most games today not even being able to utilize all 4 cores the only real use for the extra 4 threads would be extreme multi-tasking or video editing and the like. Doesn't sound like a great way to toss an extra $100, could be better spent on a better video card, better mobo, etc.

Yeah, thats what I have been reading also. I am gonna stick with my i5 although the part about Kyle saying the OS is buttery smooth on the i7 makes me wonder. I noticed right now the i5 isnt as smooth as my Q9650 but im running the same OS I had the Q9650 on and I am doing a reload soon to see if thats the issue. I had 8 gigs on the Q9650 also but not sure if that was helping the OS run smoother.
 
Why? the only difference really is the enabling of hyperthreading. With most games today not even being able to utilize all 4 cores the only real use for the extra 4 threads would be extreme multi-tasking or video editing and the like. Doesn't sound like a great way to toss an extra $100, could be better spent on a better video card, better mobo, etc.

1. He already had a Q9650
2. He encodes video
3. He can buy it at microcenter for ~220.00
 
1. He already had a Q9650
2. He encodes video
3. He can buy it at microcenter for ~220.00

Actually its 229.99 + tax = 248.96 after tax. I had the option of getting it. I am actually building an 860 setup today that is almost identical to my setup. I will see how it runs. My video encoding isnt somethign I do all the time and this i5 is already a decent amount faster at that vs. the Q9650. The difference between the two when including tax is ~$87.
 
1. He already had a Q9650
2. He encodes video
3. He can buy it at microcenter for ~220.00

It wasn't stated in this thread that video encoding was going to be done, hence my rational. I'm new so I don't know most people's computing backgrounds. Still though, unless the video encoding is done for business purposes where profit can be gained or lost through work time, I don't see the necessity at this point to spend an extra $90 that will only result in slim multi-threaded gains. If you have the money and really don't care then yea, go for it, but through the eyes of a college student, $90 is a fair chunk of change.

Yeah, that's what I have been reading also. I am gonna stick with my i5 although the part about Kyle saying the OS is buttery smooth on the i7 makes me wonder. I noticed right now the i5 isn't as smooth as my Q9650 but I'm running the same OS I had the Q9650 on and I am doing a reload soon to see if that's the issue. I had 8 gigs on the Q9650 also but not sure if that was helping the OS run smoother.

I would say that an OS reload, even with the same processor, results in overall better performance. Keep us posted on how it goes though, I'm interested to see if the reload makes it smoother.
 
It wasn't stated in this thread that video encoding was going to be done, hence my rational. I'm new so I don't know most people's computing backgrounds. Still though, unless the video encoding is done for business purposes where profit can be gained or lost through work time, I don't see the necessity at this point to spend an extra $90 that will only result in slim multi-threaded gains. If you have the money and really don't care then yea, go for it, but through the eyes of a college student, $90 is a fair chunk of change.



I would say that an OS reload, even with the same processor, results in overall better performance. Keep us posted on how it goes though, I'm interested to see if the reload makes it smoother.

Will be next week before I have time to do the reload. My last system had 8g of ram also vs 4gb on this one. Not sure if that would make Win7 run any smoother because I know at idle it was using more ram in the system with 8gb then this one with 4gb.
 
I'm hoping DFI will have a UT model soon. DFI UT P55 would be sweet or a
MSI with the new lucid chip.
 
Slapped in an 860 and got 4ghz stable with a load voltage of 1.352V. Nothing feels any faster or smoother. Everything opens at the same speed as before although maybe im not stressing it enough. Vantage score was 18,400 with 4ghz i5 750 is now 24,600 with the 4ghz i7 860.
 
All of MSI's P55 boards should be solid overclockers. I know the GD80 and GD65 are, in addition to being pretty cheap.

Edit: Didn't notice you already picked up the GD65, good choice :D
 
I read the review. One of the main reasons i am considering this board. I wish they would have learned from EVGA on the heatsink mounting holes so my 775 TRUE would bolt in without the need of a different bracket. ahh well.

I also have a Thermalright, I just bought an 1156 bolt through kit for $10 to use on my MSI P55-GD65
 
All of MSI's P55 boards should be solid overclockers. I know the GD80 and GD65 are, in addition to being pretty cheap.

Edit: Didn't notice you already picked up the GD65, good choice :D

Board is holding up pretty good. Vdroop issue should have been brought up in the review. It's horrible. You either get normal Vdroop or their low Vdroop mode which over volts the CPU under load... I idle at 1.32 and under load it goes to 1.35. The 860 actually hit 4ghz at a lower voltage then the i5 did.
 
Well im lovin the GD-65 so far, oc-genie is awesome! haha haven't had the time to mess around with overclocking yet but my overall impression of this mobo along with my new setup is really good. Of course, coming from a standard dell XPS 400 with only a mem + VGA upgrade to a completely new i5/p55/SLI setup is pretty extreme so i must say im biased. I don't know if i really want to go much higher than 3.57 anyway with the cooler i have on there right now(freezer pro 7 rev. 2). Temps are good but its only a 92 mm, im sure i'll find out its limits given more time.
 
Slapped in an 860 and got 4ghz stable with a load voltage of 1.352V. Nothing feels any faster or smoother. Everything opens at the same speed as before although maybe im not stressing it enough. Vantage score was 18,400 with 4ghz i5 750 is now 24,600 with the 4ghz i7 860.

just noticed in your sig as well that there is no i5, you decide to drop it and go for the i7 full time? or were you just testing a friend's out etc.?
 
just noticed in your sig as well that there is no i5, you decide to drop it and go for the i7 full time? or were you just testing a friend's out etc.?

Nah, I got some gift cards and was able to sell my i5 750 for close to what I paid so I picked up the i7 860. In the end it cost me almost nothing out of pocket to make the change. I have a big collection of DVD's I want to start backing up and figured the i7 might help with the encoding to Divx/Xvid. Now I just have to find a program that works with Windows 7 64bit.
 
Nah, I got some gift cards and was able to sell my i5 750 for close to what I paid so I picked up the i7 860. In the end it cost me almost nothing out of pocket to make the change. I have a big collection of DVD's I want to start backing up and figured the i7 might help with the encoding to Divx/Xvid. Now I just have to find a program that works with Windows 7 64bit.

Nice nice, yea the Hyperthreading will definitely work better for yea when it comes to the encoding, good call.
 
Slapped in an 860 and got 4ghz stable with a load voltage of 1.352V. Nothing feels any faster or smoother. Everything opens at the same speed as before although maybe im not stressing it enough. Vantage score was 18,400 with 4ghz i5 750 is now 24,600 with the 4ghz i7 860.

Heh you got RAIDed SSD's, 5870, and a 4Ghz Nehalem - there's no more mountains for you to climb man.
 
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