Which mobile OS do you prefer?

Which mobile OS do you prefer?

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Domini said:
You can screw up an iPhone just as well as you can screw up an Android phone. The problem usually lies in not doing any research. Ill respect iPhone users for their choice even though its not my cup of tea, but I cant stand when people are ignorant when defending something.
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Same here. most iphone buyers chose iphone over android with the obvious knowledge android is more customizable. Jailbreaking, while simpler, doesnt seem to be something many iphone users seek out. Of those who do, they usually just think that it gives them free apps.

Many android buyers choose android because its customizable. Then they hear about all this stuff rooted phones can do, that their phone cant. So they start asking around on how to root their phone. And i tell them: You arent smart enough to maintain a rooted phone, i wouldnt trust you with admin access on a pc. Eventually they find someone to do it or they borrowed a laptop to follow an online guide, and within 6 months it has to be charging all the time, everyone in their contact list is signed up for telemarketing and spam, it responds to 1 out of 5 touches, and blech. . .

Im pretty certain 95% of this forum can maintain a rooted or jailbroke device. I think rooting is almost mandatory for android. Jailbreaking ios doesnt seem to be that important.
 
Ocean said:
Many android buyers choose android because its customizable. Then they hear about all this stuff rooted phones can do, that their phone cant. So they start asking around on how to root their phone. And i tell them: You arent smart enough to maintain a rooted phone, i wouldnt trust you with admin access on a pc. Eventually they find someone to do it or they borrowed a laptop to follow an online guide, and within 6 months it has to be charging all the time, everyone in their contact list is signed up for telemarketing and spam, it responds to 1 out of 5 touches, and blech. . .
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Exaggerating on that a little bit....?
What maintenance is needed on a rooted phone? The only issue people usually have with adding ROMs is bricking their phone which is usually very easy to fix. If they flash a nightlies ROM then that should be expected
 
mi7chy said:
Funny but scary that he believes all his fairy tales. :eek:
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Im sorry that you disagree with my point that an android is more customizable than an iphone.

Im sorry that you also disagree with my point that some people are too stupid to do anything other than use apps.

Im sorry that you disagree with my point that 95% of hard forum users can maintain a rooted phone.



If every android user is smart enough to handle a rooted phone, why hasnt google/carriers/manufacturers all allowed root access by default?
 
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oh so i guess i'll to maintain my rooted phone.. =( U_U...
 
Domini said:
Exaggerating on that a little bit....?
What maintenance is needed on a rooted phone? The only issue people usually have with adding ROMs is bricking their phone which is usually very easy to fix. If they flash a nightlies ROM then that should be expected
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Exaggeration that android users chose customizability?

By maintenance, i mean things like: realizing that this minor android update or new rom may break your favorite modification, realizing this mod is why your battery is dying all the time, this mod may not work with other mods, disabling things that dont work anyway, removing things that got patched to shittier versions, using superuser to control root access, removing some of the shitty preinstalled apps, how to backup data, compression of evolving privacy settings.

Im also discussing people that dont even understand a rom manager, and just followed a guide step by step without zero comprehension of what each step accomplishes.


To people like us maintenance is second nature, but there are stupid people out there that just install everything that they want to try, without comprehension as to how to undo it.
 
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Domini said:
I think he means your ridiculous claims about rooted phones....
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The only claim i have made about a rooted phone is that some people are too tech stupid to really use (do things that require root access) a rooted phone.

If you think this claim is ridiculous, why is not every phone sold given root access with a simple toggle.
 
And those people don't have the skills to root a phone which makes your point moot.
 
Ocean said:
Same here. most iphone buyers chose iphone over android with the obvious knowledge android is more customizable. Jailbreaking, while simpler, doesnt seem to be something many iphone users seek out. Of those who do, they usually just think that it gives them free apps.

Many android buyers choose android because its customizable. Then they hear about all this stuff rooted phones can do, that their phone cant. So they start asking around on how to root their phone. And i tell them: You arent smart enough to maintain a rooted phone, i wouldnt trust you with admin access on a pc. Eventually they find someone to do it or they borrowed a laptop to follow an online guide, and within 6 months it has to be charging all the time, everyone in their contact list is signed up for telemarketing and spam, it responds to 1 out of 5 touches, and blech. . .

Im pretty certain 95% of this forum can maintain a rooted or jailbroke device. I think rooting is almost mandatory for android. Jailbreaking ios doesnt seem to be that important.
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I don't think rooting is mandatory, and it certainly isn't why a large chunk of people buy Android phones.

IDC estimates that about 59 percent of Android phones sell for less than $200. That's why people choose them -- because you can get that just-the-basics phone that isn't an option on iOS, and is less common with Windows Phone. And in many cases, people buy higher-end phones simply because they like the big screens and clever hardware features.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: a lot of us geeks tend to overestimate the value of things like modification and open source code. Android buyers are rarely making some bold statement about freedom. I'll bet that many don't even know they can use another launcher, let alone root. It's great for power users, but most people aren't that demanding.
 
Aurelius said:
IDC estimates that about 59 percent of Android phones sell for less than $200. That's why people choose them -- because you can get that just-the-basics phone that isn't an option on iOS, and is less common with Windows Phone. And in many cases, people buy higher-end phones simply because they like the big screens and clever hardware features.
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100% of iPhones are $100 and less on Verizon. Considering iPhones are equivalent to a budget Moto G it's not a surprise that people opt for a high end Android instead for the same price.

http://www.verizonwireless.com/vzw/smartphones/2ypriced/

$100 iPhone 5S
$50 iPhone 5C
$0 iPhone 4S
 
mi7chy said:
100% of iPhones are $100 and less on Verizon. Considering iPhones are equivalent to a budget Moto G it's not a surprise that people opt for a high end Android instead for the same price.

http://www.verizonwireless.com/vzw/smartphones/2ypriced/

$100 iPhone 5S
$50 iPhone 5C
$0 iPhone 4S
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That's not less than $200. The price is just rolled into your contract. You're still paying full price for the phone in the end (closer to $500-700 last I checked).
 
I use and tolerate droid but I really like how iOS feels more polished.
 
mi7chy said:
If you prefer Walmart it's even cheaper at 97 cents for iPhone 5C and $79 for iPhone 5S.

http://www.engadget.com/2014/08/21/iphone-5c-5s-walmart-price-drop/
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Once again, that's with a bloody contract. The phone is not $1, $79, or under $200 for that matter. Even if they paid you to take it, it would not be free because the price is just rolled into a contract. See what happens when you try to terminate said contract early. The only way you're going to get out of paying $500+ for a new iPhone is if you steal it. :rolleyes:
 
Can we stop with the "it's just like a Moto G" myth? The iPhone 5c/5s are both faster, have better cameras and carry more storage. The Moto G has a larger screen, but its main advantage (apart from whatever value you find in its Android implementation) is that it's really good value for what you're paying off-contract.

Besides, this argument is going to be moot in about a month, when we'll have both new iPhones and a new Moto G on our hands.
 
Android for now, but Im really curious to see what Firefox OS brings to the table
 
I want an 8nm 4-core x64 8GB phone running ESXm hypervisor that can simultaneously run Android, Windows 9 and Linux and double as a laptop alternative that wirelessly mirrors screen output and pair keyboard/mouse via WiGig with a small travel HDMI dongle.
 
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Domini said:
Care to elaborate?
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Buy an att or verizon android phone, chances are its got a locked bootloader with no exploit available to unlock, and it may have a way to root it but probably not. With out root or an unlocked boot loader you are stuck with how the phone is and can't customize all that much.
 
Androids have been like this for years. They weren't close to iOS then, and they sure aren't now.
 
munkle said:
Buy an att or verizon android phone, chances are its got a locked bootloader with no exploit available to unlock, and it may have a way to root it but probably not. With out root or an unlocked boot loader you are stuck with how the phone is and can't customize all that much.
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Pretty sure all current phones on AT&T and Verizon have root exploits available now. There was a long wait for root on the GS5, but I think that's the first phone that ever took any significant amount of time to root after its launch. The One M8 was blown wide open upon launch with S-Off, unlocked bootloader, and root of course. The G3 got a one-click root-app within a week or so after launch, not sure about its bootloader though.

But this is more the carrier's fault than Android/Google's. The T-Mobile and Sprint GS5 variants had root pretty much immediately after launch too, I think.
 
Personal: Android

Business: Blackberry. If the device is intended to do nothing more than help you communicate simply and efficiently, its blackberry for me.
 
IMO, it's always going to come down to personal preference unless one of the OS's makes some kind of quantum leap forward.
There are things I love and hate about both Android and iOS. Windows phone's actual interface is fine, but their app store negates everything. There's give and take with any of them.
 
SamE said:
Android for now, but Im really curious to see what Firefox OS brings to the table
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I've used Firefox OS quite a bit... you're not missing much right now. It's really meant for developing countries where the OS helps lower the price and encourages local developers. That's fine (it's doing pretty well from what I hear), but it won't conquer the world.
 
If third-party apps don't exist, I'd say WP is the best OS out front by a mile, then iOS, followed by Android with TouchWiz weighing Android down. Basically let's judge the OS's on battery life and out of box experience. If we could differentiate Android with the launcher and OEM settings, then some Androids are better out of the box then iOS like pure Android, Sense UI, MIUI, and Moto Blur. However, those Androids are worse in battery life which makes those Androids and iOS about equal. Since most Android devices run either some Chinese crap or TouchWiz, with TouchWiz being especially bad, that weighs Android as a whole down.

Think about it this way, just out of the box (no third party apps):
Flagship HTC Running Windows vs Flagship HTC Running Android (both HTC One M8)
Flagship Apple vs Flagship HTC Running Android
Flagship MIUI vs Flagship HTC Running Android
Flagship OPPO (Color OS) vs Flagship HTC Running Android
Flagship Samsung vs Flagship HTC Running Android
Flagship Nokia vs Flagship HTC Running Android
Flagship MIUI vs Flagship Apple
Flagship OPPO vs Flagship Apple
Flagship Samsung vs Flagship Apple
Flagship Nokia vs Flagship Apple
and so on...

Unfortunately for Microsoft, there are third party apps.
 
I love my BB Q10.

It may not have the fastest cpu but what the OS can do with the hardware is amazing.

It is VERY smooht, VERY stable, Battery lasts a while (around 2 days), Multitasking is excellent (no other phone can touch bb10 for multitasking), among other things.

I see most of you have never tried one of the new BB10 phones.

Go out and try a Q10/Z30 or the new Passport and it will blow you away.

As far as apps, it comes with not just the BB Store but the Amazon android store now too. So apps out the wazoo.
 
IceDigger said:
I love my BB Q10.

It may not have the fastest cpu but what the OS can do with the hardware is amazing.

It is VERY smooht, VERY stable, Battery lasts a while (around 2 days), Multitasking is excellent (no other phone can touch bb10 for multitasking), among other things.

I see most of you have never tried one of the new BB10 phones.

Go out and try a Q10/Z30 or the new Passport and it will blow you away.

As far as apps, it comes with not just the BB Store but the Amazon android store now too. So apps out the wazoo.
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I've tried multiple BlackBerry 10 devices (the Z10, Q10 and Q5). Sorry... it's not that great.

The UI is fast, it's stable and it multitasks well. However, it's simply not a very intuitive OS. All those edge swipe gestures require training before you use them well. Moreover, the software really struggles with what it's supposed to excel at: letting you process email quickly. It's hard to delete multiple messages at once, for example. I can do that faster on the other major platforms.

And of course, there's the simple question of apps. It doesn't matter how well the OS works if I can't run the apps I want, or in the way I want them. The Android compatibility element helps, but if that's the case... why not just run those apps on a real Android device with better performance and more features? I do think BlackBerry had little choice but to implement backward compatibility at a certain point, but it's really a testimony to how little support BB10 has on its own.
 
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