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Which HDD Would You Get?
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Limp Gawd
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Try teh disk storage system forum the regulars there might be able to help you! good luck mang!
Sysjack
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Western Digital is my preference. I've seen too many Maxtors die to like them. I know, I know, someone else has seen a lot of WD drives die, but not me. I have 5+ year old drives still in regular use from WD. The only other brand I would buy is Seagate.
i've been buying only WD for the last 5 years and only have had 1 drive fail on me (out of about 12), a 120gb sata drive (lots of people seem to be having problems with that particular drive - WD120JD) personaly i don't like maxtor , i used to work in a repair shop and replaced maxtor drives all the time , maybe it was because they sold more maxtors than anything else but then again maybe not.
id get the hitachi's
i have 2 in my main system and one in my laptop, very quiet drives. i used to have all maxtors but after going through almost half a dozen of them ill never buy a maxtor ever again. seagate would be my next brand to go with, followed by WD.
i have 2 in my main system and one in my laptop, very quiet drives. i used to have all maxtors but after going through almost half a dozen of them ill never buy a maxtor ever again. seagate would be my next brand to go with, followed by WD.
dainthomas
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How can you beat Seagate? The 5 year warranty rules, and they're only a few bucks more than the other brands. WD would be a close second. Don't touch the other ones.
Dark Ember
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I don't see Seagate on his list of options...
Anyway, pick whichever one has the longest warranty. If they are still comparable, look at the reliability database and performance figures on them all at www.storagereview.com.
Anyway, pick whichever one has the longest warranty. If they are still comparable, look at the reliability database and performance figures on them all at www.storagereview.com.
out of the three....
Historically Hitachi was IBM. IBM was bad. Their death star cost the lives f countless MP3 collections and many a dvd-r rip of our beloved Jenna Jamieson was lost. Friends would call me and ask what to do--I'd not be able to help them at all. Word has it that they took Big Blue's technology and turned it around but I'm not convinced.
Samsung? A very capable company but to hbe honest, i don't think they've been on the consumer side of the pc business long enough to have made a last impresion or sentiment--the jury's out on them so far as I'm concerned.
As for Maxtor..I've heard some horro stories, i'm not gonna lie, but none have ever dissapointed me. I've only owned maxtor and WD drives and both have been great thus far. I even have a 5gb maxtor from 1998 that gets regular use on the 266mhz machine I got it for it. I had one 13gb one fail me but that's likely because i dropped it....
I'd go with the Mazxtor, they drive me.
Historically Hitachi was IBM. IBM was bad. Their death star cost the lives f countless MP3 collections and many a dvd-r rip of our beloved Jenna Jamieson was lost. Friends would call me and ask what to do--I'd not be able to help them at all. Word has it that they took Big Blue's technology and turned it around but I'm not convinced.
Samsung? A very capable company but to hbe honest, i don't think they've been on the consumer side of the pc business long enough to have made a last impresion or sentiment--the jury's out on them so far as I'm concerned.
As for Maxtor..I've heard some horro stories, i'm not gonna lie, but none have ever dissapointed me. I've only owned maxtor and WD drives and both have been great thus far. I even have a 5gb maxtor from 1998 that gets regular use on the 266mhz machine I got it for it. I had one 13gb one fail me but that's likely because i dropped it....
I'd go with the Mazxtor, they drive me.
I hate this mindset. It's not the hard drive manufacturer's fault that you and your friends didn't back up your stuff. As long as hard drives have moving parts, they will fail, and probably at the worst possible moment. You want to blame it on Hitachi, IBM, WD, Seagate, your mom, whatever, that's your choice, but I say that it's your fault you didn't back up your stuff. As for fixing the reliability issues, yes, they are completely fixed. IBM had identified and fixed the problem even before the division was bought by Hitachi. So think what you want on that one.dwayne001 said:
With all due respect, your post was out of scope.
What you "hate" has little to do with what we're doing here; the bottom line is that a dependable hard drive is what all the other manufacturers made in comparison with what is NOTORIOUSLY referred to as the Death Star.
If someone's gonna ask which of a limited list of hdd manufacturers he should purchase a device from (which is the root of this thread), he's asking for my two cents, and my two cents is gonna let him know my experience with the drives within the set of his inquiry.
If I know that certain disks were rated to fail after as little as 50,000 revolutions, as in the case of the death star, then I'm gonna let him know. This thread isn't about who didn't back up what. It's about what people think of certain manufacturers. I KNOW that regardless of my boy's back up techniques, their Desk Stars dies an awful, horrible death after very little time as compared to the similar Maxtor and WD solutions I chose for myself.
The unbacked up loss of data was an aside, an anecdote that was not meant to be anything more. In the end, like I've stated before, if a person knows that certain drives have a history of failing, then they're prolly not gonna choose those drives over others. I'm providing that basis of comparison as we were requested to.
What you hate is irrelevant.
Now that I've addressed the concerns of the thread maker.
To continue, about backing up--while it's fine to save your "my files" and so on, not many end users have access or resources (time/money) for a tape drive and the lengthy back ups/restores that they allow for. As for CDs (this was back in 2002, when dvd-r wasn't really available to the consumer), I'd place 10 to 1 odds that nowhere near 80% of end users chose to back up all their 50gigs, let alone 20gigs on CD-R (700mb) on a regular enough interval for that to ever be effective. In a culture that requires evermore storage for media files such as MP3 and MPEG 4, not to mention complicated installs of modified games (Quake III Arena and it's mods (and consequently maps) were known for taking close to 2GB of disk space alone), we don't just have mechanical drives (ATA/SATA) drives as a luxury, they're a piece of the machine that we rely on. Normally, by the time we notice failings, we've moved over to a newer drive....so having one die on you after five months simply isn't acceptable. Not if you want your drive making company to stay in the market. Which is why when faced with the choice of Hitachi/SAMSUNG/MAXTOR, I'd stay away from Hitachi.
What you "hate" has little to do with what we're doing here; the bottom line is that a dependable hard drive is what all the other manufacturers made in comparison with what is NOTORIOUSLY referred to as the Death Star.
If someone's gonna ask which of a limited list of hdd manufacturers he should purchase a device from (which is the root of this thread), he's asking for my two cents, and my two cents is gonna let him know my experience with the drives within the set of his inquiry.
If I know that certain disks were rated to fail after as little as 50,000 revolutions, as in the case of the death star, then I'm gonna let him know. This thread isn't about who didn't back up what. It's about what people think of certain manufacturers. I KNOW that regardless of my boy's back up techniques, their Desk Stars dies an awful, horrible death after very little time as compared to the similar Maxtor and WD solutions I chose for myself.
The unbacked up loss of data was an aside, an anecdote that was not meant to be anything more. In the end, like I've stated before, if a person knows that certain drives have a history of failing, then they're prolly not gonna choose those drives over others. I'm providing that basis of comparison as we were requested to.
What you hate is irrelevant.
Now that I've addressed the concerns of the thread maker.
To continue, about backing up--while it's fine to save your "my files" and so on, not many end users have access or resources (time/money) for a tape drive and the lengthy back ups/restores that they allow for. As for CDs (this was back in 2002, when dvd-r wasn't really available to the consumer), I'd place 10 to 1 odds that nowhere near 80% of end users chose to back up all their 50gigs, let alone 20gigs on CD-R (700mb) on a regular enough interval for that to ever be effective. In a culture that requires evermore storage for media files such as MP3 and MPEG 4, not to mention complicated installs of modified games (Quake III Arena and it's mods (and consequently maps) were known for taking close to 2GB of disk space alone), we don't just have mechanical drives (ATA/SATA) drives as a luxury, they're a piece of the machine that we rely on. Normally, by the time we notice failings, we've moved over to a newer drive....so having one die on you after five months simply isn't acceptable. Not if you want your drive making company to stay in the market. Which is why when faced with the choice of Hitachi/SAMSUNG/MAXTOR, I'd stay away from Hitachi.
dwayne001
Okay, I understand your perspective but I still think you're off. The reliability of a hard drive is of course important. It saves time and money to have a reliable drive. That said, all of the recent drives from any of the manufacturers have been generally reliable. Does that mean your data is safe? It'll never be safe. No self-respecting business would submit their trust to a mechanical hard drive, regardless of the advertised reliability ratings. Should you? No, I don't think the average person should either, that is, if they care about their data.
And this isn't 2002. We have DVD media to use for backups. In fact, it only costs about 50 cents per disc (single layer DVD-R or +R). That's roughly 12 cents a gig; I don't think that's going to break anyone's bank. And besides, you don't have to back up everything. Maybe your important save games, spreadsheets, documents, etc. only take a couple of gigs. As for movies and MP3s, if you have the CDs and DVDs already you wouldn't have to back up the versions stored on computer, wouldn't you?
As for the Hitachi thing, I'm not going to go too far into that. Let's just say this: the Deskstar series you see now is a Deathstar only in name. If they named the drives Godzilla instead, would you automatically assume that they are fire-breathing and reptilian? The technical flaws have been worked out, and it's not fair to Hitachi to label them for something that never happened under their watch.
Okay, I understand your perspective but I still think you're off. The reliability of a hard drive is of course important. It saves time and money to have a reliable drive. That said, all of the recent drives from any of the manufacturers have been generally reliable. Does that mean your data is safe? It'll never be safe. No self-respecting business would submit their trust to a mechanical hard drive, regardless of the advertised reliability ratings. Should you? No, I don't think the average person should either, that is, if they care about their data.
And this isn't 2002. We have DVD media to use for backups. In fact, it only costs about 50 cents per disc (single layer DVD-R or +R). That's roughly 12 cents a gig; I don't think that's going to break anyone's bank. And besides, you don't have to back up everything. Maybe your important save games, spreadsheets, documents, etc. only take a couple of gigs. As for movies and MP3s, if you have the CDs and DVDs already you wouldn't have to back up the versions stored on computer, wouldn't you?
As for the Hitachi thing, I'm not going to go too far into that. Let's just say this: the Deskstar series you see now is a Deathstar only in name. If they named the drives Godzilla instead, would you automatically assume that they are fire-breathing and reptilian? The technical flaws have been worked out, and it's not fair to Hitachi to label them for something that never happened under their watch.
OK, OK, OK. We're all know it alls here, don't fake the funk.
Do you own a legit copy of every single piece of data on your machines?
The thing is that you ripped on my post based on the backing-up of the data. You ripped on it knowing full well that I was talking about the past. You ripped on it knowing that file sharing of music wasn't even technically illegal back then(Napster had been taken down, but they were not down for the count, complaints from the RIAA didn't head to users of Kazaa and simillar programs until late 2002, early 2003.), and the MPAA has had NO inunctions placed on the sharing of the files they represent...so....you know what I'm saying. These quips don't help anyone out; I'm deading this aspect of it(on my side of course); it's unproductive to the thread.
My recomendation is Maxtor. I'm out.
EDIT: Speaking of backing up I have some questions about RAID 5 in a recent post. Your input in helping me figure out my back-up solution, Xonik, would be appreciated.
Do you own a legit copy of every single piece of data on your machines?
The thing is that you ripped on my post based on the backing-up of the data. You ripped on it knowing full well that I was talking about the past. You ripped on it knowing that file sharing of music wasn't even technically illegal back then(Napster had been taken down, but they were not down for the count, complaints from the RIAA didn't head to users of Kazaa and simillar programs until late 2002, early 2003.), and the MPAA has had NO inunctions placed on the sharing of the files they represent...so....you know what I'm saying. These quips don't help anyone out; I'm deading this aspect of it(on my side of course); it's unproductive to the thread.
My recomendation is Maxtor. I'm out.
EDIT: Speaking of backing up I have some questions about RAID 5 in a recent post. Your input in helping me figure out my back-up solution, Xonik, would be appreciated.
Okay, ignoring the legality of some media content on many people's hard drives (which wasn't my point; besides, I'm not completely innocent either), we still have DVD backup. It doesn't cost that much to back up the essentials. And if you own the movies and CDs aleady, there's that much less to back up, since you can just re-rip these later if it comes down to it. There. Done. No MPAA/RIAA lip service, because they're not getting any from me.