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Which CPU block to buy?

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Adidas4275

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With a laing DCC 18w version with AC top a maze4 and chipset block


I have a TDX now and want better cooling.

for the $$ and the cooling what should I buy?

Swiftech Storm Rev 2 $54.95
Swiftech Apogee GT $45
D-tek Fuzion $59.95
AquaXtreme MP-05 PRO $65.00
AquaXtreme MP-1 $47.99


it will be on my opteron 165 @3.0 which is at a wall; cant go over 3030 or increase vcore due to my temps being over 60*C loaded above 1.50v
 
I just got a Fuzion, must say I am impressed with the looks, though I have not tried it yet, but its supposed to be really good.
 
You might want to spend the money on a better radiator instead. I went from a TDX to a Fuzion and didn't see a huge difference, not $60 worth at least.
 
AuroraProject said:
You might want to spend the money on a better radiator instead. I went from a TDX to a Fuzion and didn't see a huge difference, not $60 worth at least.
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Thanks that is good insight... I have a BIP 240 and an innovatek 120 w/ 48cfm yates on them
definately something to think about...

would going to a GTS or GTX 240mm rad make any difference?

Gyrfalcon said:
I just got a Fuzion, must say I am impressed with the looks, though I have not tried it yet, but its supposed to be really good.
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I though it looked cool also.. but so does the storm and I remember like 4 months ago when you couldnt get a storm and they were going for like $150 on ebay....
 
A BIP 240 is more than enough to cool the heatload from a single processor.

Are you running a GPU in the loop too?


The storm and fuzion blocks should drop your temps a few degrees, but probably not all that much. Fuzions are great for multi-die chips (as well as singles), whereas the TDX and Storm are equally good for single core dies.
 
well X2s are multi die...

yes i have my 7800gtx on a maze4 and my chipset on a alphacool Nforce4 NB block

Okay well i will think about getting a new block...
 
You're better off upgrading to a Thermochill PA120.3 or at the least a Swiftech MCR-320 QP. There's no point in buying GTX products when they perform worse than Swiftech and Thermochill.

However, if you're looking for a new CPU block instead, I'd recommend the FuZion since you're running one loop with a multi-block loop.

A GTX would be the best performing, especially for multicore processors, but requires a strong pump with a non restrictive loop to really shine.

I own both (and a GT) and have them across all of my systems. You can't really go wrong with either of the 3. Stay away from all other CPU blocks though.
 
Ranker said:
You're better off upgrading to a Thermochill PA120.3 or at the least a Swiftech MCR-320 QP. There's no point in buying GTX products when they perform worse than Swiftech and Thermochill.

However, if you're looking for a new CPU block instead, I'd recommend the FuZion since you're running one loop with a multi-block loop.

A GTX would be the best performing, especially for multicore processors, but requires a strong pump with a non restrictive loop to really shine.

I own both (and a GT) and have them across all of my systems. You can't really go wrong with either of the 3. Stay away from all other CPU blocks though.
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I dont really want to spend $100 on a radiator but i will look into it.

What in your oppinion is my weakest link? my tdx or BIP240?




Arcygenical said:
X2 are multi core, single die.

Big difference :)
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so then are the only multi die CPUs C2Qs?
 
Adidas4275 said:
I dont really want to spend $100 on a radiator but i will look into it.

What in your oppinion is my weakest link? my tdx or BIP240?
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TDX IMO... The CPU can't possibly put out more than 150w of heat, so if it's the only thing in your loop, the double radiator is already overkill.


so then are the only multi die CPUs C2Qs?
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As of right now, I believe so.

There's no point in buying GTX products when they perform worse than Swiftech
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Got a source on that? Seeing as they're almost identical to the Thermochills, I don't see how they're beaten by the swiftechs
 
game14 said:
i always thought multi core and multi die was the same :eek: :confused:
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Multi core and multi die don't really have anything to do with what makes a block good for one application or another. There are two things that are important: heat load and die surface area.

The difference for water block appllications between multi core and multi die is that mutli core chips that are on a single die tend to have less surface area than multi die chips. The newer chips coming out with multiple dies (like the QX6700) have dies that extend past the effective cooling area of some blocks. If the chip's dies extend past the pin grid area of your TDX, you'll find that the TDX is a bad block for that chip.
 
nonlnear said:
Multi core and multi die don't really have anything to do with what makes a block good for one application or another. There are two things that are important: heat load and die surface area.

The difference for water block appllications between multi core and multi die is that mutli core chips that are on a single die tend to have less surface area than multi die chips. The newer chips coming out with multiple dies (like the QX6700) have dies that extend past the effective cooling area of some blocks. If the chip's dies extend past the pin grid area of your TDX, you'll find that the TDX is a bad block for that chip.
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Exactly. The pin grid on my TDX sits exactly between the cores on a C2Q processor... Making the TDX roughly useless.

But you can't say that a multi die chip has nothing to do with why my TDX is a bad block in this application...
 
Arcygenical said:
Exactly. The pin grid on my TDX sits exactly between the cores on a C2Q processor... Making the TDX roughly useless.

But you can't say that a multi die chip has nothing to do with why my TDX is a bad block in this application...
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I meant that the property of being multi-core or multi-die doesn't necesssarilly mean that a particular block is bad. For example, there's nothing stopping a chip company from making a vector processing chip with 100 simple task-specific single core dies that are each (0.2mm)^2. If they are packed in even with 0.2mm between each one, the total die footprint would be 4mm x 4mm. That would fit nicely under the pin grid area of a TDX. It just happens that the multi die chips on the market have a large footprint.
 
nonlnear said:
I meant that the property of being multi-core or multi-die doesn't necesssarilly mean that a particular block is bad. For example, there's nothing stopping a chip company from making a vector processing chip with 100 simple task-specific single core dies that are each (0.2mm)^2. If they are packed in even with 0.2mm between each one, the total die footprint would be 4mm x 4mm. That would fit nicely under the pin grid area of a TDX. It just happens that the multi die chips on the market have a large footprint.
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Ahhh. Ok. Thats what I thought, I just wasn't particularly sure we were both coming from the same angle :p
 
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