ok guys heres the deal.. ive been out of the game for a while..... its been about 6 months since i havent had to buy any new hardware... i have a 3000+ newcastle, that shows u how behind i am... but i have a friend who bought a MSI K8N neo2 plat and i am trying to figure out which chip and core to go with for the best overclocks (939 pin of course).... last time i was on the forums i think the winchesters were doing the best.... thanks guys