Which card?

It seems like it would.

There is a good chance I can get an X1950Pro from someone on these forums.

Well, I can, I'm messaging the guy right now to figure out how used it is.

The visiontek is a decent one then? even if it's 256?
 
Zake202 said:
It seems like it would.

There is a good chance I can get an X1950Pro from someone on these forums.

Well, I can, I'm messaging the guy right now to figure out how used it is.

The visiontek is a decent one then? even if it's 256?
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Yes if you're willing to live without fan control and temp monitoring. Good luck.
 
Hmm, Not so sure I am...

The X1650GT would have one right?

Also, would an X1950 make a difference when playing WoW vs the X1650GT?
 
Well the X1650 Pro does, so I would assume the GT does as well. A Good program to use would be ATI Tray Tools. See this link for confirmation. This also ATI Tray Tools Support Forum and Ray Adams who was one of the respondents in this thread is also the Creator of the program ....

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=219447&highlight=x1650

An X1950 Pro should make a difference in every game you play compared with a 1650 Series card. See VGA Charts again ...

http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=735&model2=725&chart=318
 
Yea I use AtiTools with my 9800XT, that's mostly how I figured out it was artifacting. (besides the stuff all over my desktop)

I'm pretty sure the HIS X1650GT is similar to the XT.

It uses the same chip, RV560.
http://www.hisdigital.com/html/product_ov.php?id=345&view=yes

The X1650Pro uses the RV535 Chip.

I based that on these readings though-
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=734&model2=735&chart=318

What do you make of it? Is the GT actually an XT, or similar because it uses the same chip?

Should I just go for the X1650GT or try and find a X1950Pro that isn't a Visiontek or another manufacturer without temp readings?

Btw, this is the X1950Pro I'm going to start watching since the rest ending today and tomorrow are visionteks.
http://cgi.ebay.com/HIS-Radeon-X195...ryZ80184QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
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Zake202 said:
Should I just go for the X1650GT or try and find a X1950Pro that isn't a Visiontek or another manufacturer without temp readings?

Btw, this is the X1950Pro I'm going to start watching since the rest ending today and tomorrow are visionteks.
http://cgi.ebay.com/HIS-Radeon-X195...ryZ80184QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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As I said before I had never heard of the X1650GT until today, but since you said it uses the same GPU as the XT. It's likely just a cut-down XT which they released as a GT. Just guessing though.

Regarding the HIS ICEQ3 X1950 Pro on EBay you're looking at, if you get this card and it is not a Revision 2 as the seller stated. Raise some Hell. Revision 1 cards had some major issues and I had two bad ones myself. A number of the Rev.1 cards couldn't do the advertised 620 Mhz. core clock speed and many users had to Underclock them (like me) in order to get them to work properly. So if you get this card make sure it's a Rev.2, you can tell by the product code and clock speeds. See below for differences.

HIS ICEQ3 X1950 Pro Rev.1 (Product Code ending in -R)
Core: 620 Mhz. / 1.4ns Memory 1480 Mhz. effective

HIS ICEQ3 X1950 Pro Rev.2 (Product Code ending in -R-V2)
Core: 590 Mhz. / 1.2ns Memory 1540 Mhz. effective

Again, X1650GT or X1950 Pro, it's up to you. X1950 Pro is a much better card but there are no guarantees your power supply will be able to power it. It might work or it might not. The landscape is littered with 450w-500w power supplies who weren't man enough to run this card. Then there are those who claim they're getting by just fine with their 98-pound weakling PSU's. As I said before, it's a crapshoot.
 
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kk.

I have a feeling the price on it will go too far up for me to bid. It's already at $81.

I also have a 7600GT on watch -
http://cgi.ebay.com/XFX-GeForce-760...ryZ80192QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Nvm, it went up to $122.

Which isn't too much better than the X1650, but still a little better.

I really wish I knew what the X1650GT was, if it really is an XT or what.
Sounds like the GT is between the Pro and the XT, having the same chip as the XT just being underclocked a bit.

Starting to think I don't want an X1950pro. Mainly because of how high the prices got, even for the visiontek ones. (up to $140 for one of them- used)
 
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I decided to buy the X1650GT and try it out.

I don't really want to risk the X1950Pro on my PSU. Not only that, the prices seem to get too high even off of ebay.

Thanks to everyone who helped.
 
Where did you end up buying the X1650GT from? I'm considering the X1650GT as well, just curious where your research found the best price/return policy/etc.

Thanks
 
Why not the 2600xt? That's a great AGP card for $100.

The 2600xt is a little better than the 7600gt.

Also has great video features and dx10 support.
 
Zake202 said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161205&Tpk=X1650GT+AGP

I always trust Newegg for my computer stuff. Usually good prices, and reviews help sometimes.

That's AGP version btw.
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Why waste money on the 512MB version.... it wont help and cost $40 more. These video card will be hard pressed to use the 256MB of ram they have available to them. The 512mb versions just allow the manufacturers to sell these lower end video cards for more money than they're worth to less informed customers.

[bad link] <-- good cheap agp card.

2600xt is better, but more money.

A used x1950pro is the best ~$100 agp video card if you can find one for $100-110, but also requires a decent power supply (meaning a good name brand 400w ps).

The AGP HD3850 512MB is an amazing agp card that is about to be released at ~$200-250?

Side note: Performance of these older agp video cards goes 1600pro/xt =< 6600gt < 7600gs < 1650gt =< 7600gt =< 1650xt < 2600xt < x1950pro.

I think what confuses people is the x1600xt was slower than the 7600gt, but the x1650xt DOUBLED the pipelines with a little name change. Bad move by ATI imo.
 
ClearM4 said:
Why waste money on the 512MB version.... it wont help and cost $40 more. These video card will be hard pressed to use the 256MB of ram they have available to them. The 512mb versions just allow the manufacturers to sell these lower end video cards for more money than they're worth to less informed customers.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161182 <-- good cheap agp card.

2600xt is better, but more money.

A used x1950pro is the best ~$100 agp video card if you can find one for $100-110, but also requires a decent power supply (meaning a good name brand 400w ps).

The AGP HD3850 512MB is an amazing agp card that is about to be released at ~$200-250?

Side note: Performance of these older agp video cards goes 1600pro/xt =< 6600gt < 7600gs < 1650gt =< 7600gt =< 1650xt < 2600xt < x1950pro.

I think what confuses people is the x1600xt was slower than the 7600gt, but the x1650xt DOUBLED the pipelines with a little name change. Bad move by ATI imo.
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I'm pretty sure based on the thread, the guy asking above was also looking for AGP.

The 2600XT for AGP is indeed a tad better, but not enough to persuade me considering the performance side of it.
The X1650GT also has the same chip as X1650XT, and can be OC'd to an XT.
Comparison of the X1650XT Vs 2600XT
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=1064&model2=734&chart=318

And yes, If you have the PSU to run the X1950Pro, and the money then go for it.

I looked around for a X1950Pro and even used I didn't see it for $100.

Btw - The link to the card you posted is PCI-E, not agp.
There is no X1650GT that is 256 and $40 cheaper. (or else I would have gotten it)

I did look around for a 7600GT, the only 7600GT I found near $100 was this, and it isn't a true GT, it's DDR2.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130099
 
ClearM4 said:
Ya my mistake. I thought I searched for agp video cards only.

In that case the 2600xt with DDR3 memory for $100 seems like the only good ciopce imo.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102711
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Yea I looked at that card for a long time.

I decided at the end, because of the poor drivers for the 2600 and performance not being as good as previous models, that I'd go with the GT.

It just seems that the difference between the two is very small.

I won't be playing or using any DX10 stuff on this machine anyhow.
 
The 7600GT DDR3(the real 7600GT) AGP cards seemed to have vanished from Newegg, I don't think they are being made anymore. Glad I picked one up when I did because it's a very good card for what I paid for it several months ago. They overclock very well.
 
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