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which ag coating for sharp text?

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i prefer cleartype off and sharp text but im not sure which AG coating goes best with these settings?

can you guys tell me if gloss/semigloss/matte will be preferable for text with cleartype off?
 
None of that should really make much difference honestly. Make sure you're running your monitor at its native resolution is the best possible thing you can do to ensure sharp text. A monitor with higher resolution and smaller dot pitch is obviously going to make text sharper as well.
 
None of that should really make much difference honestly. Make sure you're running your monitor at its native resolution is the best possible thing you can do to ensure sharp text. A monitor with higher resolution and smaller dot pitch is obviously going to make text sharper as well.

any monitors with 125+ dpi or under 0.20 dot pitch currently in the market? theyd look pretty sharp.
 
i'm not sure what causes grainy text , if its the coating which is causing sparkling/graininess or if it is a poor dot pitch.

my current lcd is a 1680x1050@22inch running on native resolution. i like the 1400x1050@14 inch on my t42 thinkpad. the text is thick and inky on the t42 while the 22incher is grainy/sharp.
 
maybe its not the coating because both the 22 incher and t42 have similar coating. matte... so im not sure why one display is thick inky sharp while the other produces grainy sharp text.
 
There are different levels of AG coating. Some provide quite good text quality. Glossy gives the absolute best in text clarity, especially when cleartype is disabled. I speak from experience as the IDE I program with disables cleartype, which isn't a bad thing as I too prefer blocky text when reading code.
 
There are different levels of AG coating. Some provide quite good text quality. Glossy gives the absolute best in text clarity, especially when cleartype is disabled. I speak from experience as the IDE I program with disables cleartype, which isn't a bad thing as I too prefer blocky text when reading code.

which monitor are you using? so glossy gives the inky blocky sharp letters. i had a hunch that or the dot pitch had something to do with this.
 
Dot pitch helps a lot, but if you get a monitor with aggressive AG coating the text loses a lot of clarity. If light sources are an issue then an AG coated monitor may still be best. Just find one that isn't overdone.

I'm using an Asus vg236he. It's ideal for me as a general purpose, coding and gaming display.

From NCXs review of the VG23ah:

http://wecravegamestoo.com/forums/g...h-review-semi-glossy-72hz-passive-3d-ips.html

Why should you care if it is semi-glossy? Because 99% of IPS panels use a very grainy matte coating which reduces sharpness/clarity of text (slightly, text is the worst on matte1440p displays), and replaces the vibrancy of whites+light colours a with a sparkly/crystal/grain effect.

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In the above image the IPS235, L2452P, VX23336S, HS244HQ, L2440P, PA241W and ZR2440W all use LG's matte coating which is why the pixels look so blurry. The Samsung S24A850DW's coating is similar to the Asus VG23AH's coating, which is why the pixels look clearer than the previously mentioned panels. The S24A350T, FP241W and X24272 are VA panels, which is why the pixels look different & they also use semi-glossy coating. The 27Q LED-P is glossy and the NBX201i is a TN panel from a laptop with lighter coating. The XL2420T uses medium anti-glare coating, similar to what you would find on most Samsung TN panels, in practice it is noticeably lighter than the coating IPS panels use, but it still degrades the image quality.
 
Dot pitch helps a lot, but if you get a monitor with aggressive AG coating the text loses a lot of clarity. If light sources are an issue then an AG coated monitor may still be best. Just find one that isn't overdone.

I'm using an Asus vg236he. It's ideal for me as a general purpose, coding and gaming display.

From NCXs review of the VG23ah:

great info when you talk of 27-q is it this monitor http://www.ebay.com/itm/CROSSOVER-2...60X1440-16-9-Pivot-Tilt-Monitor-/110869169169 ?
 
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That's NCXs review. I think the image is from another site. It does refer to the Korean displays.

Any glossy monitor will have the same pixel structure when zoomed in tho.
 
looks like its almost resolved but ill get back to this later tonight. lot of stuff to get educated about. plus i need to go through the achieva korean monitor thread and check its reviews if someone is especially praising it for clarity etc....
 
this is what the pixel structure looks like on my 22" and laptop both when i peer into the screen really close.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2711.htm
Close up view of text at native 2560 x 1440 resolution

this sort of pixel structure is supposed to produce one of the cleanest texts. when i peered into the screen it felt like the coating was the issue. its sparkly and forms shifting light patterns like a moire when moving in real close like 3-4 inches away from the screen http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/schani/mathmap/moire2.jpg

the laptop doesnt form shifting moire patterns - maybe it isnt large enough or has a slightly different coating. it is just sparkly depending on how much dust its caught on the screen.
 
Dot pitch helps a lot, but if you get a monitor with aggressive AG coating the text loses a lot of clarity. If light sources are an issue then an AG coated monitor may still be best. Just find one that isn't overdone.

I'm using an Asus vg236he. It's ideal for me as a general purpose, coding and gaming display.

From NCXs review of the VG23ah:

i spent an hour sifting through reviews of the korean monitors.. indeed display with no ag coating like the Q27 are being reported with extreme text clarity.

so my issue is definitely the coating.

now to find some nice no-AG coating LCDs.
 
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