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Where's the E5200 Love?

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The E5200 has been available for a little while now. Given that "it's the new" e21xx, I was expecting a wave of E5200 overclocking posts. It's been dead silent so far. What gives?
 
i think that many would prefer the e7200 over the e5200 .. thats the only thing i can think about...
 
$30 more. I was gonna say people would go for the e7200 but it's still $30 more, like part of the ~$50 more for a e8400. And the e5200 only has 1 mb less cache than the 7
 
we don't even have a huge amount of e7x00 posts, I imagine most people just got the e8400.
 
I personally like the E5200. For $90 shipped, I have a CPU that hits 3.66GHz on air at 1.31V. Does everything I need.

I could have spent the $120 for the E7200, but my gaming rig already has an E8400 in it.
 
I think its still just a little expensive compared to the other stuff that is available. It seems a great processor though and if it comes down just a few more bucks I think it could start selling really well. Also availability has been a bit spotty. Some places have them but not all.
 
The E5200 is a piece of crap is why. 45nm chip thats nice. It overclocks about as good as a lot of the older 65nm chips, but it is one of the only intel chips that is FSB limited. Most chips are seeing 333MHz FSB maximum. Mine doesn't even post over 310. 4GHz has somewhat been attainable with 1.4-1.5v which is just too much, but most chips plateau at around 3.5GHz.
 
also, if you have a Fry's nearby they run the E7200 + an ECS mobo for $99.... hard to compete that.
 
Can't you get an e6xxx for the same price now or have they been gutted and thrown into the abyss?
 
You're still looking at $200+ for a new-in-box e6600. Reducing the price on older CPUs would cannibalize the current low-end market (till old stock ran out anyway).
 
I just put an $80 e5200 into a Gigabyte GA-73VM-S2 (geforce 7050/nforce 610i) that I picked up used here on the forums for 35$ a month or so back. In this application the 5200 is ideal as the mobo tops out around 333fsb. I spent about a half hour overclocking it yesterday and it is rock stable at 3.6ghz (12x300) at 1.35volts. Probably won't push it much further but it doesn't seem to be too much of a downgrade from a e7200 for most people.
 
BikePilot said:
I think its still just a little expensive compared to the other stuff that is available. It seems a great processor though and if it comes down just a few more bucks I think it could start selling really well. Also availability has been a bit spotty. Some places have them but not all.
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What other stuff? An E7200 is $30 more and only ~5% faster per clock, though it does overclock a bit better too. IMO the E5200 is the best bang for buck chip available, short of a $50 X2 perhaps, but they perform nowhere near as well as the E5200, especially overclocked.
 
needmorecarnitine said:
depends on the what is available

Fry's has the E7200 retail for $80 right now
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Yeah, thats a killer deal, if there is a Frys near you then go for it. But if Frys can sell the E7200 for $80 when the MSRP is $113, we'll probably be looking at a $60 E5200 soon. :cool:
 
harpoon said:
What other stuff? An E7200 is $30 more and only ~5% faster per clock, though it does overclock a bit better too. IMO the E5200 is the best bang for buck chip available, short of a $50 X2 perhaps, but they perform nowhere near as well as the E5200, especially overclocked.
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With the sales/deals lately an E7200 is more like $10-15 more and with the Fry's deal its $4 less! Its only a tad faster, but if I'm spending money on replacing a processor ten bucks isn't going to make a huge difference. If/when the E5200 gets discounted by a similar amount it will be a lot more attractive to me.
 
right now i 'm runing my e5200 at 3000Mhz on a asus p5q-pro with auto voltage '(1,120-1,170V).
as soon as i figure out the strange cpu voltage options in the bios i try to go higher.
but so far i'm very satisfied with this cpu, btw i paid 70 euro for it.
 
I'm still satisfied with mine. After a few more BIOS tweaks, I have my E5200 at 3.8GHz (1.34V).
 
I was thinking about getting one byt lazy dfi doen't work on bioses for my mobo any longer and besides for that price I can get some second hand e6600 e 6420 e6750 etc and have good hopes of running it @ 3.4-3.6 speeds.
 
I was planning on building a gaming box around the e5200 but the $80 Fry's deal killed that. I went with the e7200 like everyone else. You have to wonder what Intel is doing with the e5200. It could be a real AMD killer if priced properly.
 
harpoon said:
Hmm, let's see, its $84 and beats the $92 X2 6000+, not to mention only 5% slower than the E7200. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2duo-e7300-pdc-e5200_10.html#sect0

I'd say at its pricepoint its hard to beat, except by a $80 E7200 of course. :p
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Yea but there are still people buying AMD chips. I was thinking that if Frys can sell e7200's at $80 then e5200's could potentially be retailing for much less than they are now. How low could they go? I guess only Intel knows. One thing I do know is that a $50 e5200 would put a world of hurt on AMD's budget offerings.

The high price (relatively) of the e5200 makes me think that Intel wants to keep AMD around. Which is a good thing IMHO.
 
If Intel prices the E5200 at $50 what happens to the Celeron? And what about Atom? You'll have one ridiculously cheap CPU totally overpowering everything else in that price range, whether it be from AMD or Intel. I doubt Intel wants to cannibalise its own budget sales, and as you said its probably not in their best interests to kill off AMD either.

That being said cheaper E5000 chips will come, since its meant to be replacing the E2000 chips. So in future once more E5000 chips are released it'll be structured at $64, $74 and $84 like it was with the E2000s.
 
harpoon said:
If Intel prices the E5200 at $50 what happens to the Celeron? And what about Atom? You'll have one ridiculously cheap CPU totally overpowering everything else in that price range, whether it be from AMD or Intel. I doubt Intel wants to cannibalise its own budget sales, and as you said its probably not in their best interests to kill off AMD either.

That being said cheaper E5000 chips will come, since its meant to be replacing the E2000 chips. So in future once more E5000 chips are released it'll be structured at $64, $74 and $84 like it was with the E2000s.
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This is a legit argument for the celeron, however the Atom also isn't exactly in the budget market so much as it is in the lower power market. Some people are willing to buy it just because its super low power usage, not just because of its price/performance.
 
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