When will they come up with 64-bit Flash Player???

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Adobe is really screwing it up with this one. Nothing is worse than having to launch shitass 32-bit IE just to watch a youtube video! Sun is supporting both 32/64 Java, WTF is wrong with Adobe?!?!?! Anyone know of a beta on the horizon???
 
If they did they doubtless wouldn't be able to tell you because of NDAs.

In general, everything to do with Flash has gone steadily downhill for the last 6 years. I just hope enough people realize it for Silverlight to catch on. Better 64-bit support, much nicer to program in, and less issues.
 
it already exists

Code: 
#emerge adobe-flash -vp
[ebuild   R   ] www-plugins/adobe-flash-10.0.22.87  USE="(multilib) -32bit" 3,643 kB

#equery files adobe-flash
[ Searching for packages matching adobe-flash... ]
* Contents of www-plugins/adobe-flash-10.0.22.87:
/etc
/etc/adobe
/etc/adobe/mms.cfg
/opt
/opt/netscape
/opt/netscape/plugins
/opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so
/usr
/usr/lib64
/usr/lib64/nsbrowser
/usr/lib64/nsbrowser/plugins
/usr/lib64/nsbrowser/plugins/libflashplayer.so -> /opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so

#file /opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so
/opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped

Linux has had 64bit flash from Adobe since mid last year
 
Silverlight is VERY cool, esepcially on the development side. I'm starting to see quite a bit of intrest in it. Since all it requires is a small client download like flash, there's really nothing to hold it back. Could probably use a little bit better Linux support but I'm getting up to speed with it and will be using in the future pretty soon for a couple of personal side projects.
 
64 bit Flash is coming with Flash 11. I read about it about 6 months ago. Quick time is also coming out with full 64 bit support with Quicktime 8, so no more black bars for us Vista 64 users.
 
there's no need for a 64-bit browser that i can see...but if the browser exist, which obviously they do (even FF has trunk builds or w/e) then we should have a 64-bit flash. when, though, depends on when 64bit browsers become worth using...

so probably never. and doesnt bother me at all...
 
I guess MS isn't doing it for Win7, but 64-bit apps have the potential to have much better ASLR, since they have so much more address space you can use many more random addresses, to foil exploits. There was a paper (I think you can find it on the ASLR wikipedia page) that shows 32-bit ASLR is not much good. That's the only benefit I can see, and it's far off in the future, but oh well..
 
Browsers and all plug ins will all be 64 bit in a few years but because 32 bit isn't designed anymore, not because they need the advantage of 64 bit.
 
ferrisnox said:
Totally unnecessary. Are you then going to demand 64bit JavaScript??
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I sincerely hope you're attempting satire and that this wasn't a serious comment. Javascript is a platform-independent scripting language which is parsed by the browser; not by a plugin; 64-bit browsers already support it, and there's no reason for anything to change (in fact, saying something would need to change makes no sense at all).
 
criccio said:
And why do you need a 64bit browser?

...you can see where I'm going with this...
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Obviously, there are advantages to a 64-bit browser, such as increased cpu instruction, more memory addressing space, and, allegedy, security. The perfect example is back in the Win98 days, would you rather run a 16-bit browser, or use a 32-bit one?? Clearly, we want to use a 64-bit browser as soon as possible; I created this thread because I could not understand why Adobe was so behind the times, while Sun Java and other add-ins have adapted.
 
It's a vicious circle. There's no point in using a 64-bit browser, so why would Adobe spend any time on it? There are no web technologies that are really going to take advantage of a 64 bit browser, so users have no reason to run one. Until there's a reason to run an x64 browser, the plug-in companies aren't going to put time into creating plug-ins. Until there are plug-in's available, no one will be creating web content to take advantage of them. This is why progress is still slow when moving from an old platform to a new. My guess is, it will take a few more years, at least until most computers are running x64 OSes.
 
Who needs a 64-bit browser when all we should ever need is 256k of memory, right?
 
once 32bit Windows is a thing of the past and only 64bit exists, we'll see 64bit flash. until then, it's irrelevant anyway. 64bit just allows firefox memory leak to consume all 8GBs of my RAM
 
1) 64-bit systems have been around for a while and will slowly become the default in the not-quite-immediate future.

2) Not all of us _want_ 32-bit backward compatibility. 4G of ram is like $35 now, NOT EVEN ON SALE. 32-bit is basically dead (and hopefully soon gone). I can't really think of any software I use that is not 64-bit or can't be compiled as 64-bit.

3) I think from the half-full/half-empty perspective, the question should be. "Why do we need a _32_bit_ browser" ? (outside of compatibility for home users).

(Yes, I run linux)
 
REDYOUCH said:
Obviously, there are advantages to a 64-bit browser, such as increased cpu instruction, more memory addressing space, and, allegedy, security. The perfect example is back in the Win98 days, would you rather run a 16-bit browser, or use a 32-bit one?? Clearly, we want to use a 64-bit browser as soon as possible; I created this thread because I could not understand why Adobe was so behind the times, while Sun Java and other add-ins have adapted.
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Comparing 16bit vs 32bit against 32bit vs 64bit is clueles...
 
Atech said:
Comparing 16bit vs 32bit against 32bit vs 64bit is clueles...
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When 32-bit architectures started to emerge, people probably thought it was unnecessary to upgrade from 16-bit, similar to our current debacle... I just started the thread because I could not understand why such a mainstream company like Adobe has not even come out with a 64-bit Flash player....
 
Why are you guys even asking why we should bother with 64-bit? Seven years ago you guys were probably asking who's ever going to use more than 512mb of RAM? Remember?

Progress and evolution is what make the world go round. Don't stagnate it.
 
Its not that, we all understand the benefits of 64bit computing, its just that some people are under the impression that they are missing out on more performance from something like a 64bit browser... I mean.. its a web browser, its not like the 32bit versions are choking.
 
criccio said:
Its not that, we all understand the benefits of 64bit computing, its just that some people are under the impression that they are missing out on more performance from something like a 64bit browser... I mean.. its a web browser, its not like the 32bit versions are choking.
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To be fair...flash in of itself is a reason to have 64bit...I find flash to be the worst hog of memory in any browser....it's memory is allocated through the browser's resources, correct?
 
So nobody's ever crashed their browser from opening too many tabs from an animated GIF thread? Or had their browser crashed by asshats that post huge, highly compressed jpegs multiple times?

FF just crashed on me earlier today with only 15 tabs worth of animated GIF threads (~2.3GB process memory usage)

So...yes, there is a need for 64-bit addressing in browsers. :D
 
My guess is when donkeys fly ? Flash has been off ever since adobe bought out macromedia.
 
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