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Whats better between these two overclocks

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mtbaird

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well my 2.4@3.4 OC i thought was stable turns out to have failed after 10 hours of p95 :(


my options now are to either

A) run at 3ghz with the 5:4 ratio making my ram run 400mhz but cas 2-7-4-4
OR

B) run at 3.2ghz with 3:2 divider and ram at 360mhz 2-6-3-3 timings

C) Up the voltage from stock to someting higher? (my load temps @3.4 are 61C so i doubt this is a good idea)


which one do yall think is better?
 
bench both settings and report back your results soldier! :p

isnt it more fun to try them out yourself and know, then to have someone else tell you which one to run with?
 
im so sick of benchmarks hahaha


if you saw my thread a week ago i spent forever to break 20k in 3dmark01.


im just going to leave it where its at


i cant damage anythign if its not stable right? its been running fine for 2 months, ive only had 2 random restarts
 
listen, I know you have heard this a thousand times, but that thermaltake heatsink is as bad as or worse than stock. There IS a reason it's $15, you know! If you get a thermalright sp-94 for $50, you will hit 3.6ghz minimum, I would guess. How do I know? Well, look at my sig. This chip does 3.4ghz stock voltage same as yours. With my sp-94, 3.7ghz with screenies possible at 3.85ghz on AIR with a 30db 34cfm fan and I get 45C prime95 load with 1.725V! Thats crazy and a hell of a lot quieter than your solution. Even if money is tight, cooling is not something you can take lightly. Look at it this way...you are only 9C under Intels maximum spec before throttling. Do you know why it throttles? Because if it didn't, that would damage the chip. On a hot day, your temps will probably hit 65C. Running 5C away from the throttle point is NOT safe at all. You need a new cooling solution. That will allow you to reasch heights you never before thought possible.
 
whoa really?

yah this sounds nubish, but i thought if i was under the min. spec than Intel says then that couldnt be my prob?

guess im wrong though. ill look itno a new HSF
 
aight i looked at that HSF and it looks badass but im kinda wary about screwing it directly to my board and stuff

you have anyt recommendations for a HSF which uses the built on Motherboard Clips?
 
I could be wrong, but the Zalman 7000 alcu has an option to use the clips. Badass heatsink and dead silent too. It's not as good as the thermalright, but still very nice. BTW I was nervous about screwing it to the mobo at first also, but the system they implement is really secure and great for the piece of mind. Theres no way that thing is moving. Plus, the great thing about the mounting mechanism on the sp-94 is that you can vary the pressure if you decide to do some extreme mods to you chip (like removing the heatspreader) later on. I actually favor the through the motherboard method now; after than PITA first install (only a PITA cause you have to take the mobo out the first time only) it is easier to install than the clips are, and MUCH more secure. But yea if you don't wanna do that look into the Zalman 7000 series. I'm pretty sure you can use the clips with that. Good luck!

edit: Can you check those temps by placing a thermosister or temp probe near the socket? I find it a little bit hard to believe that you are hitting those high temps with stock voltages. Highest I hit was 55C with the stock heatsink. Also, what is your case temp, as the best heatsink is only as good as the temp around it.
 
i dont have a device to measure around the HSF

my case is a chieftec server case, really big and roomy, 2 intake fans 2 exaaust , and a 120mm fan on my PSU


my case idles around 31C-32C

is that high? i may need to bundle my cables better or something.

lemee know, thankee
 
well I would say thats high, but it could be good for your room temp. What is your room temp? Mine is 20-21C and my case is 21-26C. I have a generic case which i modded to have 2 80mm intake and 2 80mm exhaust as well as 2 fans in my psu.
 
i dunno my room temp and dont really have anyway to find out



so you think just by lowering my temps my OC will be stable? i hope that
 
the zalman7000A = good. period. it's quiet, too.
i have it on an amd, it works great.

i can't say anything about thermalright heatsinks (never used one) but from what i've read they will serve you well.

good luck (i have a 2.4C with a thermaltake hsf on it - spark 7 maybe - and it won't go much over 3ghz. time for watercooling:))
 
i would personally go with the zalman, it is very quit and cools great, plus, i think it is slightly cheaper (b/c with the thermalright one you gotta buy a seperate fan)

but whatever you choose, it will help alot
 
yea but the thermalright sp-94 is the best air cooling heatsink bar none. ITs the general consenseous everywhere. THe zalman is better for silence though.
 
You may already know this, but I'll say it since no one else has:

Looking at your sig, it says you have and IS-7. Remember that this motherboard is well known to report temps 5-10 c higher than other motherboards, like Asus.

Check this link:

http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?threadid=11496


So, your temps may not be quite as hot as you think.

With that said, temps are a huge factor in stablity when overclocking. As a general rule, the cooler you run, the faster you go. My P4 won't boot at 4.0 Ghz, much less run, unless the core is under 0 c.

So get it as cool as possible. Unless your ram or mobo is holding you back, chances are you will hit 3.4 Ghz!
 
Originally posted by computerpro3
yea but the thermalright sp-94 is the best air cooling heatsink bar none. ITs the general consenseous everywhere. THe zalman is better for silence though.
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i must say i disagree with that

the sp-94 is the best with a high CFM fan, which usually means lotsa noise, however, when compared to the zalman with similar dB noise, the zalman 7000 would win

so it is a toss up, there is NO CLEAR CUT WINNER
 
true, but in the end, if you pair up a high cfm fan, there is no contest. So again, it is the best heatsink bar none. I will add if you don't mind noise. But the simple fact is that the Zalman has a fixed fan, and it is not a high performance (loud) fan. But i would be willing to pit my sp-94/panaflo 30db fan against the zalman fan (which i believe has similar specs, correct me if i am wrong as i may be) and see who wins. It would be a tie in my opinion. All I know is that my sp-94 WITHOUT the fan (molex connector died, I know, weird) kept me gaming for about 15min (thats how long the comp was on be4 i noticed the fan was off) at 3.6ghz 1.725v and temps under 60C. I would love to see the Zalman do that...Don't get me wrong, the zalman is a kick ass sweet cooler...best value on the market. But the sp-94 with a high end (and again loud) fan will win without doubt. So it is the best performing heatsink available in terms of raw performance.
 
Originally posted by jwill
bench both settings and report back your results soldier! :p

isnt it more fun to try them out yourself and know, then to have someone else tell you which one to run with?
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No, it is not. I just want performance. :p
 
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