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jamhamm

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so im checking the egg cause its time to come over to the dark side of the force [the more powerful fun side of the island]

c2d

8200 @ 2.66 = $160
8400 @ 3.0 = $165
8500 @ 3.16 = $190

and then

8600 @ 3.33 = $270

so your first jump of about .15 cost you $5 - then another jump of .15 is $25 - want to jump again? it'll cost you a cool $80

the gem looks like the 8400 @ 3.0

im new to the intel camp - my first thoughts were to get a q6600 and a good p45 and take the works up to 3.0

im coming from amd - currently with a x2 5600 @ 3ghz

i do various gaming and ripping and viewing hd content... you know, pc stuff :)
 
The E8500 is likely to give you better overclocks though - for $15 I'd swing for the E8500 now. The Q6600 is good also, if you think you'll get use out of the extra 2 cores.
 
Have you considered the Q6600?

2.4 Q6600 - $185 shipped from egg. Easily OC'ed to 3.2, most able to get 3.4-3.6 with good air cooling.

If you are not up for overclocking than I would go with a chip that is 3.0 or above stock.
 
crawlgsx said:
Have you considered the Q6600?

2.4 Q6600 - $185 shipped from egg. Easily OC'ed to 3.2, most able to get 3.4-3.6 with good air cooling.
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Agreed. For video encoding, a quad would be faster than a dual-core, especially if it's overclocked. A Q6600 at 3.4GHz will have about equivalent gaming performance to an overclocked E8400 or E8500 at higher resolutions as well.
 
The E8500 is super easy to OC, overall it is a great CPU, I am very happy with it. But the Q6600 might be just as good and faster with video encoding but I am not sure how much real world difference there is.
 
caniba said:
The E8500 is super easy to OC, overall it is a great CPU, I am very happy with it. But the Q6600 might be just as good and faster with video encoding but I am not sure how much real world difference there is.
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If the apps is written good, it's ~x2 faster than a dual for encoding...simple math.
 
jamhamm said:
so im checking the egg cause its time to come over to the dark side of the force [the more powerful fun side of the island]

c2d

8200 @ 2.66 = $160
8400 @ 3.0 = $165
8500 @ 3.16 = $190

and then

8600 @ 3.33 = $270

so your first jump of about .15 cost you $5 - then another jump of .15 is $25 - want to jump again? it'll cost you a cool $80

the gem looks like the 8400 @ 3.0

im new to the intel camp - my first thoughts were to get a q6600 and a good p45 and take the works up to 3.0

im coming from amd - currently with a x2 5600 @ 3ghz

i do various gaming and ripping and viewing hd content... you know, pc stuff :)
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The higher the chip, the more overclocking your gonna get out of it, from what i hear the 8600 does 4.4ghz in its sleep, while the 8400 maxes out around there, meaning the 8600 can do more with proper tweaking and cooling.

As for upgrade wise, you can not go wrong with the Q6600. Im considering of getting one and step up to watercooling and just clock it to 4.0ghz, or maybe the q9550 :D
 
Getting an e8400 to 4.4GHz would be extremely lucky...4.0GHz on an 8400 is the equivalent to 4.4 on the 8600 voltage wise.

I'd go for a q6600 or e8500 depending on your needs.
 
the quad has been on my mind forever

so it looks like the q6600 is going to get the business - any mobo suggestions?
 
motherboards are driving me crazy!

xthis / pthat / nforce / geforce

really.... is all this farking necessary! :)

i understand the concepts, i get all the details, ive been building computers for years - been a tech since '97

but why are there some 350+ motherboards for sale on the egg that are compatible... jeez...
 
jamhamm said:
motherboards are driving me crazy!

xthis / pthat / nforce / geforce
really.... is all this farking necessary! :)
i understand the concepts, i get all the details, ive been building computers for years - been a tech since '97 but why are there some 350+ motherboards for sale on the egg that are compatible... jeez...
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ok, ok - how about the asus p5q pro? Does that have everything you need?
 
Mega666 said:
ok, ok - how about the asus p5q pro? Does that have everything you need?
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that's my ? - how many p5q boards are there... pro deluxe premium -e / and that's just with a quick check on the egg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...2E16813131326,N82E16813131297,N82E16813131296

if you look at that comparison it's kinda silly to have all those boards when they're all really the same thing - that's where i get confused...

ill end up doing what i always do - go with a known manufacturer [normally asus for me] and dumb it down to needs from there, keeping an eye on price

but to answer, yes... the pro seems like it's perfect... good price point too
 
definitely get at least a p35. p45 is a great choice. If you want SLI of course you'll have to go with an Nforce board, good luck with that :).

p5q is a nice board, I have the deluxe, not my favoriate board of all times but it does the job nicely. Very good bios.

The "instant on" (name is slipping my mind) is pretty much useless, It was neat for a little wihle but I ended up turning it off. If you have no access to other computers it is a great feature if you kill your OS, but since I work in the IT field and also have a laptop I would never use it.
 
jamhamm said:
that's my ? - how many p5q boards are there... pro deluxe premium -e / and that's just with a quick check on the egg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...2E16813131326,N82E16813131297,N82E16813131296

if you look at that comparison it's kinda silly to have all those boards when they're all really the same thing - that's where i get confused...
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Past the P5Q Pro, there's little difference between the boards. The Pro is pretty much the best bang for the buck, and has all the features that are actually important.

Another good alternative is the Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P, which is around the same price as the P5Q Pro and is equivalent in terms of quality. Both boards are pretty much equally good, so it really just comes down to personal preference. There's no need to spend any more on a mobo though, considering these two boards are some of the best out there and have all of the really important features. They may not have all the bells and whistles, but few actually make use of those kinds of things anyway.
 
Mega666 said:
Well no, they are not all the same. Please, look closer. # of PCIE 16x slots is our first question.
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i didnt mean to imply they were exactly the same - only that they were similar enough that why even differentiate

so p45 - what would be the advantages of going up to the x boards?

and how does the littlest i7 compare to the q6600? from a price/performance standpoint

and yes, while im asking questions here im digging around the internet and doing my own research too...

thanks again :)
 
No real advantage going to the X48 from the P45, at least not enough to be worth it.

i7 is faster clock for clock, and should overclock higher than the Q6600, but real world differences probably aren't enough to make it worth the extra $$ for the mobo and RAM, especially considering how cheap DDR2 is right now.
 
jamhamm said:
so p45 - what would be the advantages of going up to the x boards?
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The only real advantage is full 16/16 Crossfire, which means very little in terms of real-world performance. However, P45 boards actually tend to be better overclockers than X48 boards.
jamhamm said:
and how does the littlest i7 compare to the q6600? from a price/performance standpoint
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In terms of performance, there's no comparison. The i7 is significantly faster at performing CPU-intensive tasks. Price-wise, it's a different story. To build a decent i7 rig with 6GB of DDR3, figure a cost of about $300 each for the CPU and mobo and around $200 for the RAM, so it'll run you about $800 for those three components. A Q6600 on the other hand costs around $180-190 for the chip, ~$115 for the mobo, and ~$40-50 for 4GB of decent DDR2, so about $350 total for those components. Considering the massive price difference, IMO it isn't really worth it to go i7 at the moment, in terms of money.
 
i figured as much for the i7 - faster sure, but for much more money

and i already have 4gb of decent ocz so i'm good there, all i need is a good p45 and the q...

thanks for everything guys - now either red or green just have to come out with a video card worth upgrading too and ill be all set for another year or so :)

thanks again for the advice
 
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