What video card for $200~

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I only run 1680x1050 resolution, but my 9800gt struggles to max out a lot of games that I play, including bad company 2 and modern warfare 2. What should I get? Specs in sig

was thinking a gtx460? Give me some suggestions.
 
A gtx460 ~ overclock it and it be on par with a stock gtx470, if your after ATi, a 5850 could also be squeezed within your budget, or maybe two 5770's?
 
yeah closest price to Gamestop right now is at Tigerdirect, but that's at $219 before rebate.
 
I would never spend money on a card which sports a 128MB memory bus, they are about as useful as a snooze button on a smoke alarm.

I'd recommend a single GTX 460 1Gb.
 
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wait a few weeks till AMD's new videocards come out.

I expect the 6750 to be less than $200. Even if you don't like them, the GTX 460 1GB should also drop in price by then. I see that you can get a Galaxy version at gamestop for $160 AR. That is a good price but I wouldn't be surprised to see others match its price or possibly even go lower (talking about sales, not an everyday price).
 
needmorecarnitine said:
wait a few weeks till AMD's new videocards come out.

I expect the 6750 to be less than $200. Even if you don't like them, the GTX 460 1GB should also drop in price by then. I see that you can get a Galaxy version at gamestop for $160 AR. That is a good price but I wouldn't be surprised to see others match its price or possibly even go lower (talking about sales, not an everyday price).
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I honestly have my doubts that the 6xxx series will really even be any cheaper as far as price vs performance is concerned. Nvidia is rumored to be dropping some prices soon, though.

It's Ati's time to gouge now.
 
LeviathanZERO said:
WTF?
When did gamestop start selling video cards? I haven't been to one in years.

Not that this would make that change.....but, whatever.
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IMO, it's kick ass. Trade in your used games towards a video card. Too bad I've already given up all my 360's games but Forza 3. :p
 
IRSmurf said:
IMO, it's kick ass. Trade in your used games towards a video card. Too bad I've already given up all my 360's games but Forza 3. :p
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Exactly , if you think about it you could make that card quite cheap. Can't really do that anywhere else.

Plus Galaxy seems like a pretty good company as far as warranties go so its worth a shit.
 
crossfire had issues but my only issues with CFX was I had a defective card, I'm hoping to go cfx in teh future. OP do you have a sli capable mobo? if so, get a 1GB 460 for your budget and then get another if need be.
 
Lorien said:
You would need to overclock the hell out of that GTX460 to match the 5850 at stock clocks.
Get this 5850 for $212 shipped after rebate. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127500&cm_re=hd_5850-_-14-127-500-_-Product
Overclocking the 5850 leaves any GTX460 in the dust. Best bang for the buck right now at that price.
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all the gtx460 would need is around 800 to beat a 5850 and any gtx460 is capable of that without breaking a sweat without even touching voltage. that 5850 is not going to oc as much as some 5850s because the non reference board will limit its voltage adjustment. so if you overclocked BOTH cards to their respective max which would be around 875 or so for the gtx460 and around 850 for the 5850 then the gtx460 would actually still be slightly faster overall.
 
cannondale06 said:
all the gtx460 would need is around 800 to beat a 5850 and any gtx460 is capable of that without breaking a sweat without even touching voltage. that 5850 is not going to oc very much because the non reference board will limit its voltage adjustment. so if you overclocked BOTH cards to their respective max which would be around 875 or so for the gtx460 and around 850 for the 5850 then the gtx460 would actually still be slightly faster overall.
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Nah an overclocked 5850 will still be faster. This is also an MSI model which allows for voltage tweaking.
Here's a GTX460 factory overclocked to 810Mhz. It is only 2% faster than a stock 5850.
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Lorien said:
You would need to overclock the hell out of that GTX460 to match the 5850 at stock clocks.
Get this 5850 for $212 shipped after rebate. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127500&cm_re=hd_5850-_-14-127-500-_-Product
Overclocking the 5850 leaves any GTX460 in the dust. Best bang for the buck right now at that price.
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not to thread hijack but what's a good safe OC for a 5850, I know each card and case setup is different but from 725 with a good airflow case where can I go? 800?
 
Lorien said:
Nah an overclocked 5850 will still be faster. This is also an MSI model which allows for voltage tweaking.
Here's a GTX460 factory overclocked to 810Mhz. It is only 2% faster than a stock 5850.
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http://techpowerup.com/reviews/Point_Of_View/GeForce_GTX_460_TGT_Beast/28.html

no it wont because the gtx460 scales better with overclocking. a 5870 is only 6% faster than a gtx460 at 855(card in link). a 5850 at 850 would be about 7-8% slower than the 5870 so even at just 855 the gtx460 would barely beat a 5850 at 850. at 875 like I mentioned earlier the gtx460 would beat the 5850 no problem. in fact many of them oc to 900 which will beat the stock 5870 in almost every case.
 
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gigatexal said:
not to thread hijack but what's a good safe OC for a 5850, I know each card and case setup is different but from 725 with a good airflow case where can I go? 800?
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Pretty much all reviews I've read have it break the 800Mhz barrier. Others higher. Don't take my word for it, here's a few links:
950Core/1200Mem
850core/1255mem
880core/1288mem
835core/1260mem

On basic air cooling you'll hit the max CCC allows, which if I recall correcly is 775 for the 5850(don't quote me on that). To go beyond that you'll need an external utility like rivatuner or MSI Afterburner.

cannondale06 said:
http://techpowerup.com/reviews/Point_Of_View/GeForce_GTX_460_TGT_Beast/28.html

no it wont because the gtx460 scales better with overclocking. a 5870 is only 6% faster than a gtx460 at 855. a 5850 at 850 would be about 7-8% slower than the 5870 so even at just 855 the gtx460 would match or barely beat a 5850 at 850. at 875 like I mentioned earlier the gtx460 would beat the 5850 no problem. in fact many of them oc to 900 which will beat the stock 5870 in almost every case.
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There's so many misconceptions in this post I won't bother correcting them lol. Besides you linked a $280+ dollar card that has been voltage tweaked and is sold in Europe (Germany). The OP said he wanted to spend ~$200.
 
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At 16x10 an HD 5830 is the perfect card for the right price. Nevermind those who summarily dismiss this card having never used it. I've ran it against GTX 460 and 465 in two separate reviews (with it holding its own nicely), and have also pitted it against HD 4830, HD 4580, HD 4870 and GTS 450.

My Saphire HD 5830 (bought outright, not a review unit) at 875/1200 does more than I need it to @ 1280x720 with lots of AA and AF in the newest games. It can also handle doing the same thing at 1440x900, 1600x900 and 1680x1050. At 1920x1080 it doesn't even really lose much oomph.

1120 stream processors, 14.0 GPixels/s pixel fillrate, 49.0 GTexels/s texture fillrate, 153.6 GB/s bandwidth... pretty nice if you ask me, and they can be had for less than $200 these days.

Of course if you can find an HD 5850 for $200 then you're good to go. It's a bit stronger for sure.
 
a 5830 is a big card and overall a gtx460 is a much better choice. a gtx460 is smaller, quieter, cooler, and faster. there is no reason to ever consider a 5830 unless it is really cheap.
 
Lorien thanks a lot for the info. I'm gonna test my card OC'd and see if it's worth it. The card at stock is a beast right now. Op what are you thinking having seen the replies?
 
Lorien said:
There's so many misconceptions in this post I won't bother correcting them lol. Besides you linked a $280+ dollar card that has been voltage tweaked and is sold in Europe (Germany). The OP said he wanted to spend ~$200.
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nice excuses there. lol. look at the chart and see what I said was true. anybody can figure out that a gtx460 clocked even higher than the one they used will beat a 5850 at 850. the numbers are right there in front of you and at 855 the gtx460 is already 6% faster than a 5850. and the 5870 is only 7% faster than the gtx460 at 855. like I said a 5850 at 850 would be about 7-8% slower than the 5870 so the gtx460 at 855 would match or barely beat the 5850 at 850. clocked at 875 the gtx460 would easily beat the 5850 at 850.

the price the of card being used doesn't mean anything because any gtx460 can do 850 and nearly all can do 875 or better. so your comment earlier "Overclocking the 5850 leaves any GTX460 in the dust" is flat out wrong when it comes to the MSI 5850 card. when both the MSI 5850 and any gtx460 cards are overclocked to their max the gtx460 is slightly faster. now if it was a reference board 5850 that can do a decent voltage bump allowing speeds well above 850 then that would be faster than a maxed out gtx460 in almost every case but still would be pretty close.

EDIT: just so we don't argue back and forth, the only thing I took issue with was your earlier comment saying "Overclocking the 5850 leaves any GTX460 in the dust" . in the end both the gtx460 and MSI 5850 perform very close when both are oced to their limits. again the reference board 5850 would certainly allow faster clocks than that MSI 5850 and therefore a bit faster than a typical maxed out gtx460. :cool:
 
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