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what UPS for eyefinity xfire setup?

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so what Uninterruptible Power Supply brand/models are you guys running to keep your $$$$$ eyefinity xfire setups safe.

or are you guys just using surge protectors?

my circuit breaker popped twice these past couple days, and i dont know if my surge protector is keeping my $$$$$ hardware safe......
 
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I recommend the APC SmartUPS line. Either the 1400 or 1500.

http://cgi.ebay.com/APC-Smart-UPS-1...QcmdZViewItemQQptZPCA_UPS?hash=item19bb0b3b00

Yes they are over $400 retail however, you should be able to get this for under $200 used with new batteries. These are server quality UPSs and they come with dual 19 AH batteries instead of the other consumer line ones that use 9AH or 7.2AH so they have 2 times the reserve power. And yes they do weigh 50lb.
 
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or are you guys just using surge protectors?

my circuit breaker popped twice these past couple days, and i dont know if my surge protector is keeping my $$$$$ hardware safe......
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A surge protector is generally better than a UPS at surges, well unless you buy a live (or online) ups that runs all the time.

What breaker did you pop? In the surge protector or the house panel?
 
mmmmmdonuts said:
I love APC UPS's. I got four of them. For such a beefy setup here's what I would recommend:

APC BX1500G http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BX1500G

http://www.amazon.com/1500VA-Battery-Backup-with-LCD/dp/B002UUTCNE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1270126321&sr=8-1

If that is out of your budget step down in the APC line to the 1300 or 900, but your better off with the 1500 (longer runtime).
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that is expensive. ill save up a bit more and i think i will get the 1500. if amazon had the 1300 in stock, i would get that instead.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002UUTCNE/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

i picked amazon as the seller because i can get free shipping to hawaii.
whats the difference with the BX and BR models?

http://www.amazon.com/APC-Back-UPS-Watts-Output-System/dp/B000NDA5E0/ref=pd_cp_e_1

drescherjm said:
I recommend the APC SmartUPS line. Either the 1400 or 1500.

http://cgi.ebay.com/APC-Smart-UPS-1...QcmdZViewItemQQptZPCA_UPS?hash=item19bb0b3b00

Yes they are over $400 retail however, you should be able to get this for under $200 used with new batteries. These are server quality UPSs and they come with dual 19 AH batteries instead of the other consumer line ones that use 9AH or 7.2AH so they have 2 times the reserve power. And yes they do weigh 50lb.
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ebay shipping from these sellers to hawaii are killing me. great deals though....

drescherjm said:
A surge protector is generally better than a UPS at surges, well unless you buy a live (or online) ups that runs all the time.

What breaker did you pop? In the surge protector or the house panel?
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my house panel breaker is popping. when i turn on my AC and my PC stuff, it will pop when another room uses their TV or even an iron. but i dont want to tell them to stop what their doing when i start gaming, lol. what do you mean by live ups?

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so if i do get the 1500 stated above, will it handle and safely protect my 4 monitors, my two desktops, and some peripherals without it bogging down power if my power shuts off? or is the 1500 overkill?

also, will this have a big impact to my electricity bill?

thanks for the input guys
 
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live UPS (aka Online aka VFI) is an UPS that works on double conversion basis.
AC from mains goes into rectifier which changes AC into DC , that DC is used to charge batteries and to power up the inverter which gives sinusoidal waveform AC.

The adventage here is that the inverter gives high quality AC with near perfect frequence and magnitude. But of course with double conversion comes energy loses so the online UPS available to normal mortals will increase your power bill by around 10-15%.



For computer usage at home you should use line interactive which will have much lower energy loses (<2%) .

As for brand I'd rather pass on APC since they typically are most expensive ( you can usually buy stuff coming from same factory in china with diffrent sticker cheaper) but i don't know who that would be for american UPSes.
 
i picked amazon as the seller because i can get free shipping to hawaii.
whats the difference with the BX and BR models?
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The BR model is an older version but should just as well as an UPS. The main difference BX model has "green" technologies that shut off all peripheral devices when a main device shuts off.

So if it sense a computer goes off, it would shut down external hard drives, monitors, speakers, etc. You can program the UPS to do this or not. The BX model also has an always on feature, which essentially means if you plug a device like a phone or cable modem into one of the special outlets it will always be on even if the UPS itself is off.

Those are the main differences.

also, will this have a big impact to my electricity bill?
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The BX model will have a small impact on your electricity bill if you enable the green feature, because it eliminates vampire power from seeping to your devices when it is powered off.

so if i do get the 1500 stated above, will it handle and safely protect my 4 monitors, my two desktops, and some peripherals without it bogging down power if my power shuts off?
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Short answer, most likely, but probably not very long. But it all depends on how much energy each of these devices carry individually. If you have two gaming PC's drawing 400 watts a piece at the same time and 4 monitors it may not. In addition, the UPS can only use the power down feature on one PC unless you have your two PC's on a network and use the powerchute software to shut down the PC over a network (only in the business edition).
 
Michaelius said:
live UPS (aka Online aka VFI) is an UPS that works on double conversion basis.
AC from mains goes into rectifier which changes AC into DC , that DC is used to charge batteries and to power up the inverter which gives sinusoidal waveform AC.

The adventage here is that the inverter gives high quality AC with near perfect frequence and magnitude. But of course with double conversion comes energy loses so the online UPS available to normal mortals will increase your power bill by around 10-15%.



For computer usage at home you should use line interactive which will have much lower energy loses (<2%) .

As for brand I'd rather pass on APC since they typically are most expensive ( you can usually buy stuff coming from same factory in china with diffrent sticker cheaper) but i don't know who that would be for american UPSes.
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ic. so basicly it turns home AC into a cleaner AC output. thx for the info

mmmmmdonuts said:
The BR model is an older version but should just as well as an UPS. The main difference BX model has "green" technologies that shut off all peripheral devices when a main device shuts off.

So if it sense a computer goes off, it would shut down external hard drives, monitors, speakers, etc. You can program the UPS to do this or not. The BX model also has an always on feature, which essentially means if you plug a device like a phone or cable modem into one of the special outlets it will always be on even if the UPS itself is off.

Those are the main differences.



The BX model will have a small impact on your electricity bill if you enable the green feature, because it eliminates vampire power from seeping to your devices when it is powered off.



Short answer, most likely, but probably not very long. But it all depends on how much energy each of these devices carry individually. If you have two gaming PC's drawing 400 watts a piece at the same time and 4 monitors it may not. In addition, the UPS can only use the power down feature on one PC unless you have your two PC's on a network and use the powerchute software to shut down the PC over a network (only in the business edition).
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alright. that shut off feature is pretty nice. im all into saving $$$ on my electric bill. and the older model is about $30 difference from the new one.

if it wont handle my all monitors, i think ill just hook up my gaming PCs to it and maybe my main monitor (middle monitor of eyefinity) and the monitor for the other PC.
 
If your breaker keeps popping you really need to address that issue, you've either got a bad breaker or are just pulling way too much current on that line. A UPS might protect your equipment, but continually overloading the circuit is not a good sign. It could be a potential fire hazard as well.
 
darkpaw said:
If your breaker keeps popping you really need to address that issue, you've either got a bad breaker or are just pulling way too much current on that line. A UPS might protect your equipment, but continually overloading the circuit is not a good sign. It could be a potential fire hazard as well.
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+1. i think OP has the wrong idea of what a UPS does. a ups is used in case of a power outtage so you can safely save and shutdown properly and not dmage or lose data from simply pulling the plug. a UPS is not a replacement for not having enough power (which is proably why your breaker is popping) btw the UPS uses power to work, so you'll be adding fuel to the fire with that. you need to have the lines checked to ensure you have enough power. you may find that all you need is to run another power line on a separate breaker to eleveate your issues. i have 5 computers and a tv running on 1 15amp breaker in my basement , but its not connected to anything else. im guessing whatever line youre using for your computers is connected to some other highdraw equipment in the house (toasters, fridges, ovens etc...) i actually saw one house where some moron borrowed a 110v line off the 220 line for the oven. dumbass. everytime his wife started using alot of things in the kitchen half the main floor cutout. duh.
 
Agreed. A UPS will not help with this problem. It can only hurt. Figure out what other devices are on the same circuit and move them to a different circuit.
 
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