I currently have the soundcards in my signature and am wanting to upgrade to something better. What should I buy?? These cards will be used for mixing and recording music, so no X-Fi suggestions please. I was thinking about the Delta 1010, but I just don't know.
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What should I upgrade to???
- Thread starter Lyquist
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Delta 1010.... There are some other companies that make some great cards as well such as ESI..
there is the ESI ESP1010 aswell
http://www.esi-audio.com/products/esp1010/
Hoontech and ST-Audio make some great cards aswell...
Sucha as the MKII, Hoontech and ST audio blend though they are really one company...
Hoontech ST Audio DSP24 MKII Professional is a nice card. I don't think they make them anymore.
OF course the RME gear but very professional and very pricy.
http://www.rme-audio.de/en_index.php
I think the Delta 1010 would be great..It is actually the card I want to get from my recording.
there is the ESI ESP1010 aswell
http://www.esi-audio.com/products/esp1010/
Hoontech and ST-Audio make some great cards aswell...
Sucha as the MKII, Hoontech and ST audio blend though they are really one company...
Hoontech ST Audio DSP24 MKII Professional is a nice card. I don't think they make them anymore.
OF course the RME gear but very professional and very pricy.
http://www.rme-audio.de/en_index.php
I think the Delta 1010 would be great..It is actually the card I want to get from my recording.
There is audio master or others. You know what cards are out there so what can you afford basically is what it boils down to. I think you laready know the card you want so go buy it. If you do let me know how it is. I have been considering the same card for recording.
I don't know if the Delta 1010 would actually be a step up in quality from what I already have though...although it would free up PCI slots for me. Currently all three are filled and I would love to have a TV tuner or something. Do you know if the converters on the Delta 1010 are better than the soundcards in my sig? Thanks so much for responding. I feel like a lost soul on this board to be honest.
Well, just about anything you buy would record at 24/96...and it's all digital, so I don't really know what the differences would be. I really wish that someone could demo it for me. Sometimes it drives me crazy living in a small town and having to order everything off the net and having to rely on other people for what to buy.
There are lots of other factors to consider. You think a Audigy 2 recording 24/96 will sound the same as a Delta 1010 recording 24/96? -No, the Delta will have better quality converters with less noise, thus you will get better recordings. This is the way it was explained to me.
alot of onboards are 24/96 compatible now....I don't think the tracks laid down by these chips would be anything I would consider quality recordings.. You have to pay for quality.
alot of onboards are 24/96 compatible now....I don't think the tracks laid down by these chips would be anything I would consider quality recordings.. You have to pay for quality.
It is more about the math when editing then sound quality Per se' When you record at lower bit depths and frequncet ranges and you apply ANY type of editing and then down smaple you will hear artifacts. I read a bunch of infoon it and it is a long and involved explaination. The point behind it is to record in 24/96 do all your editing at these depths/rates and then down sample and or dither to CD etc. This is how I understand it.
You may be right about the converters I haven't compared them. The reason I wanted the 1010 is so I can run multiple sends and returns from my external mixer. Actually I am working on multiple sends today with a Audigy 2 and KX drivers. Contact M-Audio support ask them if it is a convience thing with the delta or if there is quality factor involved aswell.
You may be right about the converters I haven't compared them. The reason I wanted the 1010 is so I can run multiple sends and returns from my external mixer. Actually I am working on multiple sends today with a Audigy 2 and KX drivers. Contact M-Audio support ask them if it is a convience thing with the delta or if there is quality factor involved aswell.
I really wish I knew you in real life Audioguy. I would love for you to come over and see my setup.
Lyquist,
Thought this might come in handy: http://www.head-fi.org/forums//showthread.php?p=2782172
I run a Delta 1010 rackmount and really quite enjoy it, though I will admit I don't use it for recording as much as I do for stereo & surround playback. I have a pretty decent surround system and wanted a really good sounding card that would help get the most out of it. I've owned various creative cards (including the X-FI Elite Pro) and there's no contest, the Delta 1010 is superior.
If you go for the 1010, get the rackmount system and NOT the LT. The rackmount has all its converters in the external unit unlike the Delta 1010LT which is onboard and susceptible to EMI interference from the PC.
(P.S. as of current, there is no driver support for the Delta series in Windows Vista).
Btw, Another brand to consider is MOTU, which now has Vista support (if that matters to you?)
They are also regarded as have excellent quality/sounding gear.
I'd love to get my hands on one of their firewire based solutions and give it tryout.
Most of their gear is more expensive than M-Audio, but from what I hear, is worth it..
Thought this might come in handy: http://www.head-fi.org/forums//showthread.php?p=2782172
I run a Delta 1010 rackmount and really quite enjoy it, though I will admit I don't use it for recording as much as I do for stereo & surround playback. I have a pretty decent surround system and wanted a really good sounding card that would help get the most out of it. I've owned various creative cards (including the X-FI Elite Pro) and there's no contest, the Delta 1010 is superior.
If you go for the 1010, get the rackmount system and NOT the LT. The rackmount has all its converters in the external unit unlike the Delta 1010LT which is onboard and susceptible to EMI interference from the PC.
(P.S. as of current, there is no driver support for the Delta series in Windows Vista).
Btw, Another brand to consider is MOTU, which now has Vista support (if that matters to you?)
They are also regarded as have excellent quality/sounding gear.
I'd love to get my hands on one of their firewire based solutions and give it tryout.
Most of their gear is more expensive than M-Audio, but from what I hear, is worth it..
A lot of it depends on what you want to do. Some hardware interfaces come with PC cards, others are completely firewire or USB based. I see that you do not want firewire hardware, but I would encourage you to think more about it. I use a Presonus Firebox (6 in 8 outs) and love it, it really makes recording things very easy, and very quick. If you're just doing some home recording, like a guitar and some vocals, this thing is great. It's got 2 presonus pre-amps built in to the first two lines, so that's another added bonus. I have a Mackie 1604 mixer on my side desk, lines 1-4 going into the Firebox, the outs going back into the mixer into channels 15 and 16 then from there I can control headphone mix, main out mix, panning, etc...
If you're seriously wanting to get into recording hardware, check out the homerecording.com forums and the gearslutz.com forums. Both have insane amounts of info on recording there.
If you're seriously wanting to get into recording hardware, check out the homerecording.com forums and the gearslutz.com forums. Both have insane amounts of info on recording there.
My setup is similar to yours Lyquist in that I use a Mixer and conenct the outs intot the soundcard. I also use another sound card that is conencted to the mixers channl inserts for realtime effects on those channels. Great use for older cards with DSP processors. I will be connecting it in another way shrotly in which I run all 8 channels to the mixer and the outs back into the card for effects mixing. I use a multitrack app and set different tracks for different outputs on the card. I read about the procedure in a recording magazine and it seems like a great way to connect lines for effects. Although it is very hard to explain.
- this is why I keep wiring diagrams and signal flow charts...
What I wanted a 1010 for is so I can use the channel inserts as discrete channel sends and connect each channel to the Delta 1010. I agree though you are better off going to a site that deals with recording and has users that use the type of gear your talking about.
- this is why I keep wiring diagrams and signal flow charts...What I wanted a 1010 for is so I can use the channel inserts as discrete channel sends and connect each channel to the Delta 1010. I agree though you are better off going to a site that deals with recording and has users that use the type of gear your talking about.