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What is VMR9?

MATTRESS

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i've seen a few people mention it, but never paid attention to it. While testing my new slim slot loading dvd drive, I was using wmp9 + NVDVD codecs, and noticed an nvidia icon in my tray, so I opened it and looked around ... I saw something about VMR9 in there ... along with many deinterlacing controls. could someone teach me what all these mean?
 
VMR9 is rendering the video via your graphics card using DirectX 9. Theres a secondary version of this called VMR 7 as well. The main differences between the two is that 7 uses Direct Draw and 9 is actually treating the video as polygons thus its a 3d texture. Advantages being that with some people people they get sharper video, or free clean up as the video card is doing most of the work. However, with some people as well it brings higher processor usage. The best recommendation for it is to use a card that is good at DirectX 9 that is a 9500 or better in ATI or a 5600 or better in Nvidia. (5700 and 6800 are extremely recommended because of some video and processor usage improvements) However theres pleanty of people using lower end software and are getting along just fine so dont think that if you do not have these items you cannot use it.
 
what is it used for, DVD ? TV ? all video play back?

I have a radeon 9700 pro, so I would be able to use it ... and an athlon 1900+ processor.

is VMR9 a standalone piece of software, or is it just a setting in the NVDVD codec for dvd playback?
 
There are three types of video rendering used for media (tv, dvd, etc) when it comes to a HTPC (yeah there are more, but these are all that matter) and VMR9 is one of them. Personally I find that Overlay looks better than VMR9 on my setup, but it probably varies a lot depending on the display. VMR7 pretty much always looks like shit, its the mode you run if your system cant do the other two.
 
MATTRESS said:
what is it used for, DVD ? TV ? all video play back?

I have a radeon 9700 pro, so I would be able to use it ... and an athlon 1900+ processor.

is VMR9 a standalone piece of software, or is it just a setting in the NVDVD codec for dvd playback?
VMR is a render in XP, it's built in. VMR9 needs a DX9 class card. VMR is for video (TV and DVDs are covered under "video play back")
 
CrimandEvil said:
VMR is a render in XP, it's built in. VMR9 needs a DX9 class card. VMR is for video (TV and DVDs are covered under "video play back")

I've got my ps2 hooked up to my PC through a sweetspot component capture card + monster component cables. I use Dscaler for playback. Would VMR9 do anything for me?
 
The Batman said:
I've got my ps2 hooked up to my PC through a sweetspot component capture card + monster component cables. I use Dscaler for playback. Would VMR9 do anything for me?

Apologies in advance for this thread hijack, but how do you like the Sweetspot card? Noticeable increase in image quality from SD sources? I assume it doesn't handle progressive input, however...?
 
The Batman said:
I've got my ps2 hooked up to my PC through a sweetspot component capture card + monster component cables. I use Dscaler for playback. Would VMR9 do anything for me?
I would have to ask the same thing ECM did. :D

If you can setup Dscaler to render using VMR9 and your video card is a good one then you might see an improvement in picture quality. I'm not too familair with Dscaler myself since I have never had the need to use it so I'm not sure if it lets you choose what style render (Overlay, VMR7 and VMR9). My experience with them is from using SageTV and MPC (which for me SDTV looks pretty good when used with NV's MPEG2 codec and VMR9 over Svideo).
 
ECM said:
Apologies in advance for this thread hijack, but how do you like the Sweetspot card? Noticeable increase in image quality from SD sources? I assume it doesn't handle progressive input, however...?

Heh...I only got this card to hook my ps2 up to it. I've never even bothered trying to hook up my satellite system to it [I just download the few good shows that are out there as my work schedule doesn't allow for consistant tv watching].

In other words I have no clue what SD sources is. :D

But I am very happy with the card, my 2001FP has S-video imputs and man oh man does Dscaler blow it away for the ps2.

As for progressive, again not sure since Dscaler automatically upscales the resolution the option is greyed out.
 
The Batman said:
In other words I have no clue what SD sources is. :D

But I am very happy with the card, my 2001FP has S-video imputs and man oh man does Dscaler blow it away for the ps2.

SD=standard defintion, i.e. not progressive or HD.

So the image quality on PS2 games running through the card (via component) is vastly superior to simply piping it directly to the monitor?

Don't suppose you have Tekken 4 or SOCOM II or Prince of Persia or Ratchet and Clank 2 (among others) and could test if it takes a progressive signal?
 
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