What is a good alternative to XFi

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I currently have a Creative XFi Fatality installed in my Vista 64 system with 5.1 surround sound. I am having issues with this card and quite a few games. I use Alchemy to gain surround sound in some D3D and EAX games. My biggest problem is crashing in some newer games such as UT3. If I disable OpenAL in games, then they will not randomly crash. If it is enabled it may crash 5 minutes into the game or 2 hours in. If I use my onboard audio with OpenAL on the games do not crash, but I can not get 5.1 surround sound in D3D games such as Half Life 2 Series.

Can some one give me a suggestion on a sound card that can provide 5.1 sound for "older" d3d/EAX games without the use of an external program such as alchemy and also provide stable use of OpenAL. I am currently considering one of th Asus cards. I have had real good luck with other products of theirs.
Thanx.
 
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razer's barracuda AC-1 and Asus' Xonor are both superb cards, but have MSRPs of 199.99. they can typically be found for 150 or less, but thats a a good 50% more than the average X-Fi.

they both fit your requirements and have better sound and support than Creative's.
 

ourfpshero

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the razer ac-1 can be found for 50-60$ now as woot and buy.com dumped a bunch on the market. i have one and an x-fi in my pc. the razer is not as good as the x-fi in games BUT is the best non x-fi card i have heard game-wise! (using windows xp)
 

Wildman_CAL

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I, myself, am torn between the Asus Xonar, the Razer AC-1, and the HT Omega Claro +. The Xonar & Claro are leading though as both seem to have kick ass features and much better support than Razer. It's the price that is currently keeping me from getting either.
 
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Actually the Xtreme music in my other computer in my lan, didnt have that problem in UT3. when I was testing to see if it would do it with openAL enable. but it hasnt at all. And my other computer is running vista 64.

I using the latest drivers on it. I prolly just lucky or something.

You can try the Daniel_K XFI drivers if your able to find it. before you get another card all together.

And yea Razer doesnt have good support, I used to have a razer barracuda, I got sick of them so I got rid of my barracuda evne tho i did enjoy it when I had it.

If any thing if you want a non XFI chip card then grab the Asus Xonar like the 89 dollar one but its PCIE. But I would try Daniel K driver first then get rid of it, or you can see if PCI latceny set to 64 help you.
 
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Has anyone used one of the Asus cards paired with a Nforce 680i mobo with Vista 64. I have read a couple of complaints stating that there is an issue with using the sound card in a PCI-e slot.
Also have you had any experience with the card used with both UT3 and Half Life paired with a 5.1 surround setup.
Thanx.
 

Stanley Pain

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I'll put in a double vote.

Asus Xonar for the more budget minded folks,


Prelude for those with some money to burn :)
 

H-Money

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Has anyone used one of the Asus cards paired with a Nforce 680i mobo with Vista 64. I have read a couple of complaints stating that there is an issue with using the sound card in a PCI-e slot.
Also have you had any experience with the card used with both UT3 and Half Life paired with a 5.1 surround setup.
Thanx.
there suppose to be a bios fix from nvidia coming that deals with that issue
 
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Thanx for all the replies. I am going to try a couple more settings in the Creative control panel, but I think my mind is made up. I am probably going to order an Asus card next week and give it a try.
 

Hooligan

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are Soundblaster Audigy 2 SE any good still?

Are the drivers OK? Do they sound better than onboard?
 

ditzilla

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are Soundblaster Audigy 2 SE any good still?

Are the drivers OK? Do they sound better than onboard?
Have one in my older (close to 2 y/o) computer. Realize that the SE is not a "true" Audigy, that there is a chance it will slow your system down (did mine) ... is the sound better than onboard? For me, yes, definitely. Driver-wise, I'm using the next to latest drivers and it works fine - I installed my way. d/l the drivers onto my desktop, then install card, install those drivers then put the CD in for the software I wanted. Their autoupdate has fubar'ed more times than it hasn't. Please note, I'm using XP Home on that computer with Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe mobo. So I don't know/can't speak to any issues with either 64bit or Vista.

If you've only got like $30 to spend, it's not a bad option. It's just not the best and it is still Creative.

Me? I'm really leaning toward completely blowing my budget and getting a Claro+. Might be a bit of overkill, but the opamps are better, and overall it reminds me of the card I really wanted - an X-Meridian. Actually found someone selling one, but they wanted $200 :(
 
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