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Bao01 said:
Perception =! semantics.

You didn't come to the same conclusion as I did. You went back and edited your post to make it look like you did. The proof is I had quoted your original and you went back and changed it half an hour later. So clearly, you've learned something from me.

I don't expect any thanks from you. But, I do expect you to not find a sneaky way to deny it.

Now, I'm telling you to stop with the bullshit. Stop with the pretenses. If you don't know, don't wank off like you do, just as someone has told you already and to whom you've responded with obfustication and to which I felt necessary to point out to you.

I don't know why you were banned from AT forums as you stated before. But, you're creating difficult situations here. I have a good memory. I remember from your first posts, all the extravagant claims. You are young and uninformed and you should not be pretending to be something you are not.

Lastly, to aid you in future reasoning I suggest to you to use the Socratic method of learning by asking questions. For example: to the question of chaos, ask yourself how it would be without these rules, how more ordered or chaotic it would be. Ok, you're still impressionable. So, don't worry about the law. Institutional laws are not necessarily based on truth or fact, but also on the common good, rights, and the necessity to make things manageable among other reasons...and the law dictates only a few facets of life.



The world was not proven flat. It was poorly reasoned so, only by western society and during its darkest moments. Everyone else either did not care or did not believe the world was flat. In fact, Byzantine art routinely depicts the world as a sphere or globe.
As I have stated to you, you do not live in that age. In the here and now, we have proof that the earth is round.

Your correct I did edit it. But only after I seen that you . Were assuming That a Color change was made . Not a word change. Color is color . The word describing that color however is changeable . I was assuming All would understand that. But after reading your post . I seen that it might fly over some people's thinking. So I did edit . TO show we were disscussing a Word change discribing that color only. I really shouldn't have had to add that that edit . But you made it neccessary when I seen you were thinking color change rather than word change discribing that color. . As for me changing or editing for anyother reason is just plain stupid. I got banned from AT because of this very reason . Make a statement I find easy to understand than someposter comes along and can't see the obveious. I was taught green is green . Someone else was taught green was red.

Out of that you conclude that I am talking about an actual color change rather than I word change. How you could come to such a conclusion is beyond me . When I clearly stated we were talking about the same color green and only a word change was made =Red. It is people like yourself . that got me banned by not being able to see that which is right in front of you.
 
chrisf6969 said:
I'm glad you're asking for help to understand some of this magic computer stuff. instead of just ranting. Computers, computer languages, programs, are defined and well understood. You just need to talk to the right people in the right fields. You should read about quantum (physics) computers. That would probably interest you more!

You also would do well in Philosophy class. Ever take one? You'd love to argue the brain in a vat theory, or the "if the brain was simple enough to understand, then we would be too simple to understand it", or god is unimagineable for our simple minds.

Anyway, to answer your question.... if you have the source code, (code written in a high level language, like C+, etc..) all you should probably have to do is just open your compiler program, select your source code, tick the 64-bit, box and then click compile. Almost as easy as opening an adobe photoshop file (source) and resaving it as .jpg.

They do the same basic thing..... the larger original is easier to understand, manipulate and change, then the output is the compiled "image".

I'm kind of over simplifying it, but to get something to work in 64-bit mode its quite simple, now to optimize it for 64-bit might take a little more tweaking, but still quite simple.

Or you can manually edit the final proguct (machine language, but you can sometimes break things like that, or you can make them work better if you know what you're doing) Kinda the same with an adobe original file vs .jpg.
-once again simplified.

I hope I helped.

First off I am old . Second I got started on computers late My daughter has been a great aid. I struggle with many things not because there hard but because nerds had to change word meanings to describe a simple act such as plugging in a device= pinning.

This is just one example of many.

like when you say higher level computer langauge= C++. To me my old way of thinking not nerdish. IT don't get any higher level than this = 1011100100000. some were along the line this addderess has to be used because the gates which infact open and close or turn on and off have to be adderessed in this manner. To me this is high level and is really complicated when you start talking millions of transistors.
 
64 bit is useless for most people now, and will be for the next couple years at least. I guess if you are going to buy a desktop, go for it, since there are a lot of desktop chips that support it, for a laptop, forget it as the P-M and Core Duo don't, and they have many other benefits over the Turion.
 
NulloModo said:
64 bit is useless for most people now, and will be for the next couple years at least. I guess if you are going to buy a desktop, go for it, since there are a lot of desktop chips that support it, for a laptop, forget it as the P-M and Core Duo don't, and they have many other benefits over the Turion.

But Merom supports 64bit, doesn't it?
 
$BangforThe$ said:
like when you say higher level computer langauge= C++.

There are many highlevel languages, C++ is just one of them, so they're not equal.

$BangforThe$ said:
To me my old way of thinking not nerdish. IT don't get any higher level than this = 1011100100000. some were along the line this addderess has to be used because the gates which infact open and close or turn on and off have to be adderessed in this manner. To me this is high level and is really complicated when you start talking millions of transistors.

You're just not thinking about it the right way.
Gates are deep inside the processor, and aren't exposed to the 'outside world'.
Think of it like cylinders in a car engine. You won't ever see them, because they're deep inside the block. The only way to see them is to take them apart. But you don't have to see them in order to drive the car. And whether you have 1 cylinder or 8 cylinders, it makes no difference in how hard it is to drive the car. You will barely notice. Just like 32-bit and 64-bit CPUs barely make a difference to a programmer.

And if you want to drive, you don't have to directly touch the engine, or even see it. You just have to use the controls of the car, like the wheel, the throttle, the clutch, the brakes, the stick. They are much like the instructionset of a CPU. They allow the driver to use the car, like the instructionset allows the programmer to use the CPU.

I hope it makes sense now. Everything seems to make more sense when cars are involved.
 
$BangforThe$ said:
Your correct I did edit it. But only after I seen that you . Were assuming That a Color change was made . Not a word change. Color is color . The word describing that color however is changeable . I was assuming All would understand that. But after reading your post . I seen that it might fly over some people's thinking. So I did edit . TO show we were disscussing a Word change discribing that color only. I really shouldn't have had to add that that edit . But you made it neccessary when I seen you were thinking color change rather than word change discribing that color. . As for me changing or editing for anyother reason is just plain stupid. I got banned from AT because of this very reason . Make a statement I find easy to understand than someposter comes along and can't see the obveious. I was taught green is green . Someone else was taught green was red.

Out of that you conclude that I am talking about an actual color change rather than I word change. How you could come to such a conclusion is beyond me . When I clearly stated we were talking about the same color green and only a word change was made =Red. It is people like yourself . that got me banned by not being able to see that which is right in front of you.

Is this not what you wrote?

$BangforThe$ said:
Do i go threw the traffic light knowing the guy in the other car was taught something differant than myself?

Stop trying to weasel out of this.


Couple of months ago, you posted this:

$BangforThe$ said:
I been thinking Of upgrading her to a 975x M/B 955 ee @ 4.7 ATI X1900xtx.
But it still is a strong performer for its age . I believe I got the X800xtpe in may of 2004 . I know I got it when they were released. No waiting at all.

Fabrication. Who's buying this? You got on the ORB with you wife's old machine?

$BangforThe$ said:
She noticed I played Fear on mine alot and she wanted to buy the game I told her that her machine wouldn't handle it

Sure, you really have a wife, really, sure. And you are an older guy, who sits around playing fear all day in between stints of forum posting, sure.

And you are a real pro, unlike what you are now claiming:

$BangforThe$ said:
This was a machine I built for a customer that had issues . So I gave him a new PC and replaced the M/B in this one and kept it for myself as i couldn't sell as a new pc

Anyone who cares can read over that thread where the 99.5% pure male bovine fecal matter(from your end) flows like water.
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Let's end here. You don't have a wife. It's some girl or guy who likes to hang out with you or otherwise is imaginary.
You don't have an assistant as you've claimed in some other thread. You were banned from AT. Some mod noticed the silly arguments you were getting in and possibly looked into it found out you were pretending to be 3 people(you, your wife, and assistant) posting from 1 IP address. So maybe, you were really banned for being a fabricating troll.

You don't have a daughter or a son who left for college. Again, they could be imaginary. OR. They could represent your two older siblings.

You're not old. You're not even a man yet. In fact, judging by your cynical expressions,


you couldn't have had experience in the real world yet.

All this stuff flies right over your head. Stop wasting forum space and exploiting people's generosity to troll and pet this juvenile ego.

That's it, enough proof from me. Nothing further needs be said. I believe in order and I will not continue on this off-topic discussion. Don't worry, I'm not going to "get you banned". If I wanted to, I could have reported a laundry list a long time ago.

What a trifling waste of time.
 
I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.
 
LstOfTheBrunnenG said:
I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

I take it your referring to commies only.

Socialism= Good thing

Commies= Bad thing
 
EQTakeOffense said:
Any idea if this was/is government enforced? I did some research a while back on the history of both companies. I know Intel and AMD have had some legal battles with each other, and I think the cross-licensing agreement was a result of this?

Any idea if this is correct, or am I just seriously confused and need to go back and re-learn what I forgot? Lol

The original CLA arose from a lawsuit Intel filed against AMD back in the days of Sockets 7 and 8 over AMD's supposed use of Intel microcode for their Am486, K5, and early K6 processors. The CLA was part of the settlement of that lawsuit. A similar but smaller-in-scope CLA exists between Intel and VIA Technologies.
 
Are you familar with The I.A. CLA ? Ask $Bang about it.
or you can watch Men in Black (the movie) for more information. :p

Intergalactical Alliance Cross Licensing Agreement - technology has been shared with us by aliens, as long as we let them use Earth as a intergalatic hub.
 
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