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SarverSystems
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SECC = Japanese Steel
ASTM = American Steel
If I recall correctly, SECC is rated as SECC10, SECC11, SECC12, and Z10 or soemthing like that for zinc plated.
ASTM = American Steel
If I recall correctly, SECC is rated as SECC10, SECC11, SECC12, and Z10 or soemthing like that for zinc plated.
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I find this thread thoroughly informing.
From what I have experienced Japanese metal is not as strong as American. I had a set of drill bits that were made from Japanese metal and they proceeded to break on their first use. I took them back and got a good set made by DeWalt, American.
So I won't buy Japanese steel products anymore unless I have too.
But of course I could be mislead. But I doubt it.
So I won't buy Japanese steel products anymore unless I have too.
But of course I could be mislead. But I doubt it.
Once again for the slow people...
The material the case is made of has no effect on its cooling properties.
Good airflow and design is what makes a good case cool well.
You could make a case out of wood, cardboard, aluminum, steel, plexiglass or legos and it wont make a bit of difference.
Aluminum doesn't magically radiate heat better than any other material. It usually is lighter, and many aluminum cases are very well designed, like the Lian Li ones, but it's the design of those cases that make them superior to others, not the material.
Your heatsink is not directly attached to the case, so what the case is made of has no bearing on it's cooling potential.
Fan placement and good airflow is key.
And please don't post any smartass links to that Zalman case that IS one huge heatsink. That one is not a superior case for cooling, but rather is made to be silent above all else. Yes, that one DOES have the heatsink attached directly to the case via heatpipes.
Originally posted by Spinal
Dude chill out... you came out swinging for no reason.
anyway yeah thanks for the post. I often wondered about the code too.
I didn't flame anyone, but this topic has been gone over again and again and every time it is brought up again some moron pipes up with the "aluminum cases cool better" line.
The reason that the Lian Li's and CoolerMasters cool better is that they are better designed cases than many of their competitors. For some reason the myth was forged that AL cases have some magical property that makes them cooler than steel ones. It's simply not true. What's so disagreeable about this line of discussion is that people who don't know what they are talking about are spreading misinformation to those who don't know any better and are seeking answers. If you know what you're talking about then rock on, spread the word. Just don't mislead the noobs and the answer seekers.
Originally posted by Tanis143
Maybe that rumor was started because AL cases are cooler for lan parties since they weigh maybe a third of a steel case
Well, their easier for the 98lb weaklings to carry from the car to the LAN.
As far as comparisons go look here:
http://www.systemcooling.com/alum_steel-02.html
Conclusion
So what do we take away from this? I think the answer lies in having realistic expectations. Many people swear by their aluminum cases, as I do. They have many advantages, and one of them is that very often, a system will run cooler after it's installed in a nice aluminum case. Where the realism comes in is that it should be understood that these temperature reductions are almost entirely due to better design and better airflow, as opposed to superior material. The "giant heatsink" analogy sometimes used to describe aluminum cases simply doesn't hold water, and people who claim huge temperature decreases simply by virtue of aluminum are only fooling themselves. Heatsinks do their job by absorbing heat from the part they are meant to cool, and this can only be done by the heatsink making direct contact with said part. Where an aluminum case is concerned, the closest it comes to contacting the primary heat generating components in a computer system is the handful of very small standoffs used to attach the motherboard to the backplane. Try sticking a screw between a processor and heatsink, and see how much heat gets transferred. The answer is not much, and please don't REALLY try it, unless you want to be in the market for a new processor.
In short, buy an aluminum case. They're great. I love them. But buy one for the RIGHT reason.
Ok, and someone has something up thier arse. I was joking for one, but on a serious note, if I had the choice between carrying a heavy steel case vs a light AL case, I would choose the later. Not that I COULDNT carry the steel case, but why flex when I dont have to. I think your taking this whole AL case thing too personally.