Weird geforce fx5900 and 9800 problem

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vietkangta

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ok so im running a system that is a 2400+ with 1 gig ram and an fx5900. When i play coutner strike 1.6 my frames drop a lot from from 100 fps. It drops down to like 60 fps in most places. I mean come on what gives! This card is runningabout the same fps as my old geforce 4 ti4200. I even tried to play cs on my laptop, a centrino 1.6ghz with radeon 9200 mobile and it gets better frame stability then my system.


Could it be my frontsidebus? I;ve tried many different drivers, and even reformatted my computer. Heck i even had a radeon 9800 in my system and it was still running low in fps exactly like the geforce 5900. What is wrong with my system? And yes i plugged the power molex into the video card.
 
usally when you see that and its not happining to much its because the harddrive is slow to keep up, most of the time a good defrag will help or finding the program that hits the harddrive as well. if you have multipule drives keep games off you main drive and it helps alot. raid does as well.
 
my drive is defragged and i;ve tried putting it on other drives and same thing.
 
I wouldn't worry about a drop from 100 to 60 FPS... it isn't even possible for the human eye to really detect differences in FPS past about 65...
 
i dont know alot about source games... but most games will adjust their settings automatically to suit the video card

are u adjusting the settings on your own or just installing and playing?
 
iots not cs source its cs 1.6 the game from like 6 years ago. And running at 65 fps vs 100 fps is a big difference, the game feels sluggish when it has a sudden drop like that.

I just want to know how can a card like the ti4200 run at the same fps as my newer geforce5900.
 
vietkangta said:
iots not cs source its cs 1.6 the game from like 6 years ago. And running at 65 fps vs 100 fps is a big difference, the game feels sluggish when it has a sudden drop like that.

I just want to know how can a card like the ti4200 run at the same fps as my newer geforce5900.
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Newer cards sometimes don't run games based on older versions of DirectX as well as the cards that were originally designed for it.
 
vietkangta said:
iots not cs source its cs 1.6 the game from like 6 years ago. And running at 65 fps vs 100 fps is a big difference, the game feels sluggish when it has a sudden drop like that.

I just want to know how can a card like the ti4200 run at the same fps as my newer geforce5900.
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You realize that unless your monitor has a crazy refresh rate, it wouldn't even be giving out 100FPS? Also, as I stated earlier, while the refresh rate of the human eye is still not known as is one of the many mysteries of the human body we are trying to find out to this day, it is generally conceived that under good conditions, the brain drops frames past 65+. Some people are calling for 72 hz fbeing the standardized refresh rate, as seen here: http://www.daniele.ch/school/30vs60/30vs60_3.html.

Now, it COULD have a sudden 1/2 second drop where it drops to like 10FPS as it switches from 100FPS to 65FPS (as in, going into a larger area) where it could actually feel sluggish... but only for half a second or so...
 
Call me superhuman, but I can see a difference between 70 and 100+ fps in UT2K4. when panning my view in the FPS, 100+ fps is a lot smoother. When i stop panning, 70- fps seems to stop on a dime, as if it was totally independent from my hand. 100+ fps reflects the exact motions more fluid. And for monitor refresh rates, I can tell the difference between 72 and 100+ hertz. I cannot stand anything below 85 hertz. 110 hertz, for me, is bliss.

I am sure some others out there can agree.
 
you should try flashing your FX5900 to a FX5950.

i did that to my 5900XT (gainward) and it made a Big Difference, it may not be the greatest Card for DX9 carsds, but it still does a Great job for what it costs now, and that is what really matters.
 
The first thing that comes to mind is that your 4200ti was a DX8.0 card, whereas your 5900 is dx9.0. What setting do you have enabled? What resolution are you playing at? If you've upped your resolution then its possible that you're getting slowdowns when more is being drawn on the screen.

 
When you installed your new cards, I assume you installed the new drivers for them as well?

Number one I can think of is Vertical Sync. Try turning off VSync for CS and see if that lets your fps come back up. Also, since you were getting higher fps earlier it's not very likely, but it could be your console settings limiting your fps.

fps_max -1
fps_lan -1
fps_modem -1

Should all be set to -1 for starters (60 is default I think in most HL mods) to see what fps your card is capable of, then limit it to a little below the peak fps for a more stable gameplay experience.
 
DamienThorn said:
The first thing that comes to mind is that your 4200ti was a DX8.0 card, whereas your 5900 is dx9.0. What setting do you have enabled? What resolution are you playing at? If you've upped your resolution then its possible that you're getting slowdowns when more is being drawn on the screen
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I thought the FX cards were all DX8.1 with half assed 9.0 coding, hence why Source forces them to use DX8.1 instead of 9.
 
RadCliffeX said:
I thought the FX cards were all DX8.1 with half assed 9.0 coding, hence why Source forces them to use DX8.1 instead of 9.
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While the FX cards are shitty for DX9.0, I didn't know that it automatically defaulted to 8.1 rather than running at a reduced fps at 9.0.
 
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