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Sz1hart

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Hello everyone,

My buddys and I where thinking about starting a web site for local people in our area. However, the thing is that we don't really know what to do or how to get started. If you could help us out on how to get started it would be great! We wish we could become half of what [H] is in the future but thats a whole different story.

Is there anything that you guys could point out for us since you're still young :). Most of us or at less a few well or are taking web designing classes. Could you say tell us what we need to do, know or other stuff to get started and how to also start a forum?


Thanks alot
 
It depends on what all you want to do with your website. If you're looking to have a simple static site that just gives info about the community You can set something up with XHTML and CSS real easy. If you're wanting to get more interactive or have things like user authentication and what not then you're going to want to learn some scripting language like Perl or PHP along with a database like MySQL or one of the other various SQL databases out there.

I don't know Perl but I am currently learning and coding in PHP and MySQL so I have a personal preference for them. If any of you know the C language then PHP shouldn't be too hard to pick up and any SQL is pretty easy to get a basic handle on.

No matter what you're going need to know at least basic HTML but I would definitely suggest learning CSS as well since that makes websites much easier to arrange everything on and with it you can come up with some really nice static (or otherwise) web pages.
 
lol, I got about half of what you said and we are starting dreamweaver next week so that well help.


I don't really get what yo mean... I would like it to be like hardocp. Most sites are the same(layout) but I would like it to be something that would let users able to interact with.

Also, how hard is it to make a forum for a website?

What do I need to setup one, I know that we also need to pay for a domain name. Is there anything else(im sure theirs a ton I forgot)? If you have a link for us to learn/get imformation at them that be great too.


Thanks a mill.
 
Check out asp. You can get a free community starter kit here:
http://www.asp.net/Default.aspx?tabindex=8&tabid=47

Then you can download Visual Studio 2005 express and SQL 2005 express for free to play around with it and host it.


Buy a domain name and if you have a static ip you can host the site on a computer locally or you can pay a company to host your site.
 
ok, thanks

I'll give it a try and see how it goes...are those program like dreamweaver or something elses?
 
Visual Studio is kind of like Dreamweaver, I guess. SQL server is a service that maintains databases on your hosting server.

Good luck, whichever you use just keep at it and know that someone else has already had your problem, so the answer is somewhere on the internet.
 
Sz1hart said:
Also, how hard is it to make a forum for a website?

What do I need to setup one, I know that we also need to pay for a domain name. Is there anything else(im sure theirs a ton I forgot)? If you have a link for us to learn/get imformation at them that be great too.
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For something like what the [H] is, I think you're looking for something like PHP-Nuke. It's a free portal site, and I'm not sure, but I think it comes with forums (phpbb). If it doesn't, someone here I'm sure can help you install them. I haven't used php-nuke before, but I've heard good things about it. If you look at their site (similar structure to hardocp.com), you'll see the news postings, categories on the left, and misc stuff on the right. All that is editable. It's fairly easy to install, some webhosts will install it for you or will have it preinstalled as part of your hosting package. It's also customizable, and like I said, it's free.

If you're looking for just a basic static website and a forum, look at phpbb. By static I mean that you'll have html pages and will use a program like Dreamweaver to update those pages, as opposed to using a web-based administration area to make updates. PHPBB is free as well, easy to install and is also customizable. There's also plenty of templates on the web for you to change the look and feel of the forums easily. Their website is phpbb.com

To setup a domain name, turn to godaddy.com. Their cheap and reliable. You'll also need a webhost. There's plenty of them out there. Most of the free "software" for your website will be php/mysql based, so you'll want a Linux based webhost. I'd start with something small and if you max out your bandwidth or space, move up to a higher plan.
When you open an account with your webhost, they will send you (most likely in an email) your DNS Settings, something like ns1.coolwebhost.com & ns2.coolwebhost.com. You'll need those. Login to your account at godaddy.com (where you registered your domain name), under Domain Names -> Manage Domains click your domain name. On the right of the page you'll see a section for Nameserver Summary. You need to modify those to the DNS Settings sent by your webhost (those ns1..... addresses). That'll get your domain name and web host connected.

While looking for a webhost, see if they brag about having cPanel and Fantastico. cPanel is what you'll use to manager you website, such as email, traffic analysis, etc. Fantastico is actually a plugin for cPanel, but it usually includes PHP-Nuke and PHPBB and will automatically install those applications on your server for you.
 
thanks for the tip/help so far.

I'm kinda busy right now so haven't had time to download anything or try anything out yet until this weekend.

The only thing that I really demand or want is something that is user friendly and also something that can be upgrade/date without much work(unless it needs to). I'm online alot and would like to be able to update the site whenever something new comes along.

I don't really mind spending my time learning new things but something that is easy to use would be great unless it doesn't offer many things/features. So in other words anything would be fine.

If you also don't mind telling me what I need then that be great. I don't know much about this area but want to learn since I have been picking up on alot of hardware info and it wouldn't hurt to learn all I can while I can. What would I need(require) in order to start a website.

How did [H] become [H]? Just wanted to know how they become what they are now...

I should have more time so I well be going over the whole post later.

Again, thanks for all the help everyone

EDIT:Notice you fix your post with more info and thanks for giving more info but I don't have time now since its getting late so i'll give it a read later. Thanks Alot
 
Probably to start you'll need something very basic. Hardware wise, 10+ gigs of transfer, 500mb storage should do fine. Application wise, you'll probably want at least 2 MySql databases & PHP4. You'll also want a management application such as cPanel or Plesk.

That's really pretty basic stuff for a webhost. You can probably find that at some places for like $5 a month. Here's a link to a plan with a company that I like (we have our dedicated server through them), http://liquidweb.com/shared/plan1.htm . It's $15 a month, but it comes with 2 free domain names, which means ignore all the godaddy stuff I mentioned above. It also comes with the cPanel/Fantastico suite I mentioned above. Feature wise, it provides plenty more than what you'll need to start off with. It's a great, full-featured, reliable starter package.

Dunno how the [H] became the [H], you'll have to ask Kyle someday.
 
Read this post since it has some tips on what to base a site on. Basically, you need to have something tangible to base on before you create a site. Something local would be a local sports team, church groups, local bands (these generally love having sites), etc. If you don't know much about web design, I'd suggest simply playing in a sandbox on your PC to start: create mock sites with HTML and CSS to see how the basics work, then get PHP and MySQL and tinker around with it. This can save you money since you won't have to pay hosting fees while you learn. Best way to start is to try to recreate a site so you can understand how it works. After that, look for something tangible that would need a web presence.
 
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