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We need a new stability test.

NeuroN

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Stability testing with prime95 overnight has kinda been the "norm" the way I see it for quite long. But lately, especially on amd64 I've seen prime95 successfully run 16 hours, and a compile overnight fail instantly. Was talking to a friend of mine and he said the same thing, he had 2x primes running on dual core (affinity set up right) running overnight, no problems, xvid encode failed after about 3 minutes.

Anyone know any stress testers optimized for amd64? (and maybe even smp capable, althrough running more than one seems to work fairly well ;) ).
 
i agree... i can run prime95 for hours on end at 2.72 but any source engine game crashes within 5 minutes. at my current speeds i can run for hours on end.
 
For overclock testing I use Prime 95, Science Mark, and Super PI. I've seen situations where Prime95 still runs, and Superpi quits or crashes, or errors out.
 
Ctrl_Alt_Delete said:
i agree... i can run prime95 for hours on end at 2.72 but any source engine game crashes within 5 minutes. at my current speeds i can run for hours on end.

OH NOES!!!! Prime95 isn't an indicator of system stability!!!

:rolleyes:

It's actually been known for yonks and yonks.. but recently, with the 'mainstreaming' of overclocking by the masses, nubbies have been giving mis-information everywhere... :rolleyes:

People still think it, so it's always easier to quote it... it'll never die as it can give an idea of a systems stability... but for a be all and end all.. it doesn't. Full stop.
 
Ctrl_Alt_Delete said:
i agree... i can run prime95 for hours on end at 2.72 but any source engine game crashes within 5 minutes. at my current speeds i can run for hours on end.

That would probably be your vid card contributing heat to your system which is causing the instability, a variable you won't have just running prime95. Run rthdrlbl along with prime95 and see what happens.
 
Dr. X said:
That would probably be your vid card contributing heat to your system which is causing the instability, a variable you won't have just running prime95. Run rthdrlbl along with prime95 and see what happens.

True, True, or Rail instability somthing PSU related :)
 
Real stability? Load up XP64 Pro and run something hard...since the 64 bit OS uses more fo the cpu, it can show a marginal overclock up pretty fast....

My cpu will run 2.6 in XP 32 all day long, in anything, perfectly....


Boot into XP 64 and weird things happen fast...I have to drop my overclock to about 2.5ghz, maybe a bit higher......
 
my proc did 10x260 for 8hrs prime stable and CS source froze 5 mins into the game :rolleyes:
 
you gotta use the combination.... super pi and p95... occt. memtest all that good stuff.
 
TheRapture said:
Real stability? Load up XP64 Pro and run something hard...since the 64 bit OS uses more fo the cpu, it can show a marginal overclock up pretty fast....

My cpu will run 2.6 in XP 32 all day long, in anything, perfectly....


Boot into XP 64 and weird things happen fast...I have to drop my overclock to about 2.5ghz, maybe a bit higher......

I experienced that too.
 
if your serious about stability testing you might wanna go with a real 64bit OS like linux, running 32bit software on win64 isn't a great way of testing compared to running 64bit software on a 64bit kernel.
 
NeuroN said:
if your serious about stability testing you might wanna go with a real 64bit OS like linux, running 32bit software on win64 isn't a great way of testing compared to running 64bit software on a 64bit kernel.


XP64 "is" REAL 64bit software.....it just happens to be able to run 32bit software in emulation, as you noted. Linux is NOT the best answer for many users. I play games on my computer, plus some video editing and DVD stuff, and linux can't hold a candle in the gaming end because you can't even GET some of those titles for it. And don't say Wine blah blah because that runs pretty slow compared to running a game inside of it's intended OS.

Linux is cool, I just hate hearing people go off about how much better it is than windows...it depends on what you are doing...
 
TheRapture said:
XP64 "is" REAL 64bit software.....it just happens to be able to run 32bit software in emulation, as you noted. Linux is NOT the best answer for many users. I play games on my computer, plus some video editing and DVD stuff, and linux can't hold a candle in the gaming end because you can't even GET some of those titles for it. And don't say Wine blah blah because that runs pretty slow compared to running a game inside of it's intended OS.

Linux is cool, I just hate hearing people go off about how much better it is than windows...it depends on what you are doing...

and that's why I started with "if your serious about stability testing", you can get a livecd and do some quite good testing on that most likely :)
 
For me, occt usually fleshes out that final instability.
If your Prime stable, memtest stable, can complete 3dmark05 but you still get crashes when you fire up that game and crank up the resolution and AA.........run occt. It will stop in seconds sometimes even with all the other stuff telling you your systems great.

I never tried running occt and rthdrbl together...........hmmmmmm thats a for sure lockup I'm thinking even if nothings wrong.
 
My stability test is to run atleast two (normally three) threads of processor intensive workloads per cpu core. I like to have a video encode, audio encode, some kind of heavey usb/hardrive/network utilization, two software compiles going on (big, like OpenOffice, xorg, glibc, qt/kde), and simaltanious archive packing+unpacking. i like to let that run for atleast 18-24 hours. A OpenGL heavy demo is also in call if i'm testing my graphics card, but I don't overclock that much. Atleast like 5-8 hours of "normal" use gets in there, too. Like internet, homework, music.
 
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