WD and Seagate, hm....

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beserk1

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I would take the Seagate day and night over the wd.

+1 Seagate
 
I think by my buying a new computer, I am starting multiple fights among my friends.... XD

Is like for every parts they all have different favorites. This is going to be harder than I thought to come to a decisive decision.
 
I tried a 320GB Seagate 7200.10 for my parent's build a few weeks ago. I've never heard a hard drive so loud. Most people say their drive is quiet. Mine was so loud that I worried it was actually defective, but I think it was just loud, especially seeking. I returned it for a refund and went with a Western Digital. It was my first Seagate experience, and I've been using WD drives for six years.

I really like the RE2 drives. I'll be trying an SE2 250GB drive here soon.

I've put WD drives in every computer I've ever built for myself and family.
 
another vote for WD

in my 4 year experience with the Air National Guard, we have replaced less WD drives over the others. sometimes the replacement drives are WD :D
 
beserk1 said:
and hows the new WD after the refunds?
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Well I returned the Seagate for an RE2 160GB WD1600YS. A capacity hit but plenty for my parents. I've actually had one of these drives in my computer since last summer. It's not silent, but it's not loud at all, and it's definitely not as jerky/chugging as the Seagate was for me.

It's been great so far. The RE2 drives are built for raid arrays, typically for data centers where noise is common, but these drives aren't loud by any means. It's the only component in my parents' build that you can really hear. It's no louder than any other hard drive I've had.

Granted, it's 160GB. The 320GB probably uses two 160GB platters, but I don't really know.
 
I know the numbers of platters make a difference, but is it double the sound? or just minor increase in the noise department?
 
Not really sure. I've never ventured above 160GB drives.Well I will for my next build. I got a 250GB WD2500AAKS. Should be getting it built next week.
 
I've got about 8 WD 320 drives (non RE) in a raid5 server and added 2 of the seagates in when they had them for 65$ at fry's. I had one of each for comparison in my desktop machine and I got about 10-15MB/s faster read speeds with the seagates. Can't comment on reliability though, I haven't had a WD drive die in my server yet (about 3-4 yrs online) but only had the seagates for a month or two. Noise doesn't matter to me, my power suppy is louder then all my HDs and the server lives in a seperate room.
 
The Seagate 7200.10 series is typically faster, but that's just one aspect to consider. Noise and reliability matter more to me than speed.

I bought a PowerSpec PC from MicroCenter in 2002. It was my college computer for my freshman and sophomore years. It came with a 40GB Western Digital hard drive, which I'm still using in my computer today for copying over small but important files.
 
Consider I am going to do a RAID 0 setup, reliability is a must, sound is closely on the 2nd.

My only experience with hard drive so far is with maxtor, and they are nothing but pain...
 
You're doing a RAID setup, so why not the RAID Edition Western Digital drives? ;)

Maxtors are last on my list of hard drive brands to get.
 
I recently replaced a 250gig WD with a 320gig SATA 7200.10 Seagate and love it. Drive is quieter, quicker and has a longer warranty. IMO Seagates are the best.
 
what type of 250gig WD was it? The server grade hard drive for WD is model number ending with YS, as to the Barracuda line for Seagate.

It would be great if we can compare these 2 line of products directly instead of comparing to those desktop sub-model.

I need that stability and the extended 5 year warranty on those hard drive, thats why I picked those 2 line of products.
 
I've experienced two WD1600YS drives, the RAID Edition, one for my computer and one for my parents' system. I'd buy a bunch more of them, but I wanted to try the SE version with a larger capacity. If I don't like the 2500AAKS, I'll probably get another 1600YS.
 
I don't build a lot of computer like you folks do, so I can only judge base on what everyone else said. And the YS 'seem' provide more stability than the desktop counterparts.

Then again, WD and Seagate did said both their server grade is built for long lasting and stability.

Plus is not much more expansive. I doubt I will be able to fully utilize the huge amount of disk space anyway.
 
While I am not an IT person, I have been working on computers off and on since early 1991. I have had drives from every manufacturer die on me, even several from makers that do not exist any more. You will find people who swear by each brand today, and you will find people who swear AT each brand available today. Aside from a few anomalies like the IBM Deathstar drives from a few years ago (actually just the 75 gig model was affected I believe) drives today have very similar properties and failure rates.

Yes, you are going to have an occasional out of box failure or early death, but it happens to every manufacturer. You have to remember that they ship tens of millions of each model of drive.

I was just looking at some Seagate tech data on the 7200.11 drives yesterday, and their published failure rate (I know, take it with a grain of salt,) is .34%. Remember, that includes gazzillions of drives in consumer systems and data centers too. Drives that would not pass muster in the enthusiast community happily spend their lives there where a noisy drive is not even noticed. We tend to be a lot pickier than the average computer user.

The only modern drive I have is a 500 gig 7200.11 that I am very happy with, so far. I have only been using it for a month so far, but it is fast, roomy, and very quiet.

I have seemed to notice a few more complaints on this board about the 7200.11's but maybe that's just because they sell more. I know when I go into Fry's or BB, there are always lots of Seagate drives, generally more than any other brand.

There are so many models of drives out there, it is hard to find someone who has extensive experience with a wide array of models and manufacturers. So you are left with lots of opinions based on someone having 1 bad experience, or just owning a couple of the model you are asking about.

Don
 
I have that Seagate, and have been using it with no complaints for a year and a half. It is quieter than the last Western Digitals I had, and seems reasonably fast. Wouldn't mind a raptor though...
 
Noise is no issue for me. Wouldn't mind another of these Seagates for RAID, as long as they are not still shipping with the AAK firmware (which mine doesn't have).
 
I have the WD320YS, very quiet in my opinion, and I am very pleased with it. It comes with a 5 year warranty, as it is an enterprise class HD.

+1 wd
 
UPS has been great for me.

FedEx just delivered a hard drive and RAM two days ago from ZZF. It's been snowy. The box wasn't in plastic, and it was right in front of my door. Not behind the big flower pot. Right there, sitting blatantly on the front porch. The bottom of the box was wet.

UPS will at least partially hide a package behind the flower pot. And they always have it in plastic when necessary. I haven't used FedEx in awhile, but it was the cheapest on ZZF. Never again.
 
I guess it all comes down to my luck when choose a brand between 2 very similar products.

And have to make sure that they are in retail package and have a good delivery services.

@GJSNeptune and others with bad expereince with delivery services
You said the package got wet, is it DOA? Did you get it exchanged? How was it?
 
No, the box got wet, but the hard drive and memory seem to be okay. The hard drive is in its anti-static bag and the memory is in its retail packaging.

But it was on my porch from 9:45am to 5:30pm in plain view in 30-degree weather. That's over seven hours. The hard drive anti-static bag had very slight condensation on it when I brought it in. I haven't ordered the motherboard or HSF for my new build yet, so I was able to let the hard drive and memory return to room temperature. I could try it in my computer now, but I'm just gonna wait until next week when I build the new system. I'm not worried about it, but who knows.
 
plasma said:
Why not:confused: where do you suggest ordering from?
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All Newegg does for OEM hard drives is wrap a bunch of jumbo bubble wrap around them. It's a little shoddy. I just ordered one from ZipZoomFly, and it came in a plastic-foam little box thing. Unfortunately the box was a little bigger than the drive, so the drive could bounce around inside it.

I dunno. The bubble wrap might've been better.
 
haha, I see, well, like I said, I am just using newegg as a reference for price and review and what not. I am going to mostly order it from a friend who work at a computer store, and I am just gonna pick it up there and test it right there to make sure all the parts are working right.

So method of delivery is of almost no concern for me, as long as I can make it safely home with my baby.
 
GJSNeptune said:
UPS has been great for me.

FedEx just delivered a hard drive and RAM two days ago from ZZF. It's been snowy. The box wasn't in plastic, and it was right in front of my door. Not behind the big flower pot. Right there, sitting blatantly on the front porch. The bottom of the box was wet.

UPS will at least partially hide a package behind the flower pot. And they always have it in plastic when necessary. I haven't used FedEx in awhile, but it was the cheapest on ZZF. Never again.
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You'd be surprised how wet components can get. I've had dripping boxes before, I've transported macines in the rain, and we constantly (especially now with the shity weather), get soaked boxes.

Although, it is nice to get a dry box... nothing more aggrivating than having a drippy wet box thats all nasty.

One idea you can do is get one of those rubbermaid outside bins that has a lid, write fedex/ups/usps/dhl delivery box.... so at least no one would know what you have on your doorstep and you'd get dry packages.
 
It was just the bottom. None of the peanuts were wet, and the foam hard drive box thing wasn't wet. I don't think it soaked through.
 
ya everyones experiences are different.

i worked for a company that sold their own PC's. i seen 100's of WD die in just 2000 alone. after that i got a sour taste for them. we would RMA them trays at a time. they same way they would ship them to us.

since them i stick to seagate. i fully know WD is not like that anymore but, i still could never buy one of their products.

plus the seagate is 79.99 with free shipping now. so +1 seagate

WD is 89.99 + 6 shipping.
 
320GB 7200.10
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