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Water Cooling...should I?

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The Saint

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Guys....

I need some suggestion here: I`m sick of the hairdryer I have sitting near me. Basically I have an Antec 1010AMG which has 4 fans and its loud.

I was thinking about going with Water Cooling but I`ve never done it. Can you recommend a Kit that includes everything or some list for the parts? Can it be compatible with future 64 bit CPUs?

One more...i`m not into overclocking the CPU....although i do overlclock my Video Card.

:)

Thanks
 
That kit will not give you better temps than a high end air cooler would, but it will give you much more silence. So if your not overclocking, this kit would work fine, or if you're willing to spend more, innovatek has passive radiators.
 
Thanks guys for the replies....
I`ll look at innovatek...
I`m mainly doing this because of the noise but I can consider the overcling potential of water cooling!

;)
 
Jmcmike...thanks for the head up. I like that unit a lot. and I`ve read great things about it!

I'll certainly keep it in mind.
 
I say go for it...

If you don't skimp on the kit and get something decent right away you will be very happy with it, learn a lot, and have something with enough capacity to grow with your system (whether you have to adapt your cpu block or not)

Besides, tinkering with watercooling and making it all work is fun. You only live once ;)
 
right on __Maad__!

I`m sold for the Exos now :) i was reading reviews aroud the net.

(Hey i`m moving to Toronto soon and I;ve seen you live there!)
 
saint, think about this place then dtekcustoms.com they have really good parts and a good kit, just change to the whitewater block a nd the 1250 ehiem and you have a lot better system than exos
 
Jared, what I like about EXOS is that it is external!

Can the EXOS waterblock be replaced with something better? Or it is sufficient?

What are the cons of the EXOS compared to the dteck?
 
i really like the 200G water block for the exos, cools great, looks ok, and the quailty is great, and if u want even a better water block koolance came out with there 300G water block.
 
Watercooling for stock speeds is usually useless. Get quieter fans or disable some of them.
 
If your using the EXOS, the best part of their setup is the CPU water block. Their block design does better with 1/4" tubing than should probably be possible. You can get better performance for the money, but the EXOS is easy to setup and if your not overclocking, would be a very good system for you. I think the only real drawback to the exos, is that once you buy it, you can't go to a 1/2" system later should you decide you want to up the performance.
 
Originally posted by NoEcho
Watercooling for stock speeds is usually useless. Get quieter fans or disable some of them.
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I know I posted in favor of the Exos earlier but NoEcho has a good point. If you're not going to overclock, and you know you're not going to want to overclock, consider a huge CPU heatsink with no fan or a well known quiet cooler. You can also disable most or all your case fans and just let your power supply fan handle case air exchange.
 
Well I had the thermaltake 2 that was posted earlier, and while I liked the silent-ness of it, it wasn't exactly an amazing performer. Then again it's not meant to be a hardcore watercooler, just something quiet and sufficient. If you just want something quiet, get a nice large heatsink and a stealth fan. You won't be able to hear it, and it will keep it cool enough for stock speeds.

As for the EXOS, it is a very nice product and I think it would work well for your application - and even allow some overclocking. However, the EXOS is much more expensive than $65 bucks or so for a good heatsink/stealth fan which may not give you as cool of a temperature, but cool enough not to worry about.

Food for thought... And for your wallet :)
 
Originally posted by jmcmike
My vote is (predictably) for a Koolance Exos. It is very quiet and I was able to get rid of two noisy fans (for CPU and RAM, yes I overclock) I cool my CPU, northbridge and video card with it. Here is my review:

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=725806
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That would be quite overkill for anyone who don´t want to overclock. And it´s not the most silent watercooling system up there. EXOS actually Exos do cool very close to the high end systems really so it´s definiatly not a budget or lowend wc system.

But it´s great both for the newbie and the not DIY overclocker ;)
 
Guys....

the main problem I have with the internal setups is that I don`t have any tools at all to drill holes and stuff. I`ve never done anything like that so I might screw up everything. PLus I don`t want to destroy my case, in the case I might sell it one day.

So external is good for me, although i know that they are not good performers.

I was looking at the kit from Dtek adding the WWblock and the eheim pump 1250, although i don`t know how complicated are the instructions or if even they come with them!
The radiator on this kit is also internal, shame since I liked that kit.
 
Originally posted by The Saint
Guys....

the main problem I have with the internal setups is that I don`t have any tools at all to drill holes and stuff. I`ve never done anything like that so I might screw up everything. PLus I don`t want to destroy my case, in the case I might sell it one day.

So external is good for me, although i know that they are not good performers.

I was looking at the kit from Dtek adding the WWblock and the eheim pump 1250, although i don`t know how complicated are the instructions or if even they come with them!
The radiator on this kit is also internal, shame since I liked that kit.
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Externals can be good performers. Just look at the EXOS. However if you want internals and don´t mod your case get a Koolance 2. It´s the same as the EXOS only internal. Every part is identical really but it´s a lot heavier than the EXOS+Case of course. It weights as much as my 21" Trinitron monitor and those are damn heavy.

Oh and I noticed I just got the Hardness Supreme rating. Perhaps it should be hardness Supreme spammer :D
 
Bah! waterclooing is good for non-overclockers too. Just by it being more efficient, you can go with lower speed fans on the radiator (or even a smaller radiator, or passive) and have a well cooled and extremely quiet box.
 
I like that case a lot and for the price it is actually better than the EXOS alone!!

Any CONS you found in it?
 
I just set a couple of these up for some customers and I even talked my father in law into getting one. It is a very nice system. The Antec/Chieftech cases are good quality to begin with and the way the EXOS is built into it is very clean/nice looking too. One nice thing is that this has a hole drilled at the bottom underneith the reservior so you can top off and bleed your system by simply turning the whole case upside down. All the tubing is ran internally so there is no worry with drilling holes or running it through a PCI slot opening in the back of the case. This thing is uber easy to set up.
The only drawback, is that you have to add $50 bucks to the total cost as it doesn't come with a water block.
 
I think I`m pretty much sold for the PC 650 Case :)

I really liek the mod they have done to it, it has two pumps and it performs quite good.
 
I just got my koolance this week after deciding not to hack up my new case to put watercooling stuff in. I couldn't be happier. My computer is almost silent campared to having my volcano 11. I also have all my case fans turned down. Abit U-guru reports my cpu temp at no high than 35C under load. Ambient is around 25C. It toook me about ten minutes to install the system with the 200G waterblock. I was able to overclock about 70 MHZ more out my cpu but I'm fairly sure my cPu is just a dud. My gpu block will be here next week. Anyway the exos is a quality product and if you have the cash foroget about the quiet heatsink/fan combo. Cooler temps and quieter PC are worth my 200$.
 
Originally posted by The Saint
I like that case a lot and for the price it is actually better than the EXOS alone!!

Any CONS you found in it?
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Well as I said it´s heavy as hell but that also make it feel more robust and non plastic ;) It do look good too and has a very good layout. I have no complains whatsoever.

And the only reason to get EXOS is really to be more portable and be able to have your own case really.

I didn´t like that temp probe much since it messed up with a unlocked Palomino I got and the temp controller for the fans never worked for me.

I never mind it at first since I got the air cooling sickness of having to run the fans at full speed all the time so I always ran at full speed anyway.

Now I have attached it to a fan controller and run them 7-volted all the time at 2310 and 210 fsb. I am a victim of a crappy mainboard it looks like since I don´t do voltmods :(
 
Originally posted by The Saint
thanks oqvist...

I`m sold. :)
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I am sure you will be happy with it :)

No way on earth I will ever go back to aircooling again
 
I also plan on watercooling for my first time. I'm looking at the whitewater for a block, but not sure about a radiator or a pump. I basically am the same as The Saint. Would like to spend no more than $200, noise factor is priority #1 but I also plan to push my 1700+ and get a waterblock for my ti4200 and overclock that.

I've been reading a lot of threads and a lot of guides, and I haven't run into a lot things involving case modifications and was wondering how much work I would have to do. I have the Aspire X-Dreamer II ATXB4KL.

Don't meant to hijack thread Saint but I'm in the same boat as you :)
 
damn it only took u 10 minutes, i know its pretty easy to install but thats really fast
 
Originally posted by toug
I also plan on watercooling for my first time. I'm looking at the whitewater for a block, but not sure about a radiator or a pump. I basically am the same as The Saint. Would like to spend no more than $200, noise factor is priority #1 but I also plan to push my 1700+ and get a waterblock for my ti4200 and overclock that.

I've been reading a lot of threads and a lot of guides, and I haven't run into a lot things involving case modifications and was wondering how much work I would have to do. I have the Aspire X-Dreamer II ATXB4KL.

Don't meant to hijack thread Saint but I'm in the same boat as you :)
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The Swiftec systems with the 80mm radiator will work fine in that case, you could always get a second radiator if you want even more cooling. I would look for there newer systems that come with a 12 volt pump as there easier to setup and take less space.
 
I dunno.. If noise factor is #1... I didn't really consider the 80mm delta fan that swiftech included (or any other fan I tried for that matter) on the swifty micro rad all that silent. From personal experience, if you plan on pushing a tbred way up with watercooling you'll have to move up from the 3/8" ID + 80mm microrad setup. It's too restrictive and too low-capacity and not quiet enough (as you say, noise factor is #1)..
 
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