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Water cooling Kit or Case?

Vile

Vile

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Hi all,

I was thinking about going into water cooling (first time for me as I've never done it before)
and I noticed some decent kits are ~$200 USD. That's not a bad price at all, but my question is, would it be better to get an entire water cooled case instead of just the kit? (since they are nearly the same price anyway)

My current case is an Anetc PlusView1000AMG.

Here is the Koolance case I had in mind:
http://store.yahoo.com/xoxide/koolancepc2.html

Are there others that are much better that you could recommend?

Will the water cooled cases come with everything I need to get the actual WC setup, or do they require additional accessories?

Thanks :)
 
Remember that case or any koolance kit doesnt supply the waterblocks, so you still have to buy them. The case comes with rad, res, pump and tubing.
 
ereshkigal said:
Remember that case or any koolance kit doesnt supply the waterblocks, so you still have to buy them. The case comes with rad, res, pump and tubing.
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Ok thanks. Are there other kits/brands that come with everything needed?
 
Vile said:
Ok thanks. Are there other kits/brands that come with everything needed?
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dont get koolance. From what I've seen, their kits work, but not well. Buy a kit from somewhere like dangerden where they'll give you good parts. Otherwise you'd be better off with a good thermalright heatsink.
 
Are you dead set on getting a kit? DIY would be much better... I assure you,
 
Really, your better off getting a swiftech 22xx-series kit than one of those.

The only hard part on the swifty kit is mounting the radiator...but with a little casemodding or just putting it on a pedestal mount, you can get a very easy to do kit that will perform well. Only upgrades to any swiftech kit is getting rid of the fill/bleed kit, and possibly a better radiator. The little jobby they use is better than the rad in the 8500 series kit, but isnt as good as any other units it's size. If you want to not mod, then get an 85xx series kit with an extra rad set up in parralell. But that route is a bit pricey. Swiftech gear isn't cheap, but it's not crap either.
 
boshi said:
dont get koolance. From what I've seen, their kits work, but not well. Buy a kit from somewhere like dangerden where they'll give you good parts. Otherwise you'd be better off with a good thermalright heatsink.
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Thanks, I'll check that out.

stumpy said:
Are you dead set on getting a kit? DIY would be much better... I assure you,
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Nope, it doesn't have to be a kit. I just figured it would be easier, since this is my first time WC'ing. :) If it's better doing it manually instead of the kit, I can do that too.

mustang_steve said:
Really, your better off getting a swiftech 22xx-series kit than one of those.

The only hard part on the swifty kit is mounting the radiator...but with a little casemodding or just putting it on a pedestal mount, you can get a very easy to do kit that will perform well. Only upgrades to any swiftech kit is getting rid of the fill/bleed kit, and possibly a better radiator. The little jobby they use is better than the rad in the 8500 series kit, but isnt as good as any other units it's size. If you want to not mod, then get an 85xx series kit with an extra rad set up in parralell. But that route is a bit pricey. Swiftech gear isn't cheap, but it's not crap either.
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Thanks for the advice guys, I'll read up more on this and see which is the best route to take :)


*edit..

Ok, I had a look at Swift Techs page, but I'm still unsure if it would be best to get the parts individually, or get one of their socket 478 kits. (since I have a P4)

In the online store section at their page, I noticed the "H20-22600-P Pentium® 4 CPU Liquid cooling kit - 1/2in. OD Tubing - $219.50" Would this work for my needs?
 
that 22600 kit was what I was talking about. It should work Ok, but if you do any hardcore overclocking, you may want to get a more substantial radiator and ditch the fill/bleed valve kit for a resvoir.

You can save some bucks getting it in parts, and spend those on your better rad and res...but if you get a rad...heatercore is cheap, black ice is more expensive....but blackice rads are thinner than most cores.

I started on a swiftech 8500 kit, and i still use the stock block from it...for only being 3/8ID (1/2OD), it does a good job.
 
mustang_steve said:
that 22600 kit was what I was talking about. It should work Ok, but if you do any hardcore overclocking, you may want to get a more substantial radiator and ditch the fill/bleed valve kit for a resvoir.

You can save some bucks getting it in parts, and spend those on your better rad and res...but if you get a rad...heatercore is cheap, black ice is more expensive....but blackice rads are thinner than most cores.

I started on a swiftech 8500 kit, and i still use the stock block from it...for only being 3/8ID (1/2OD), it does a good job.
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Honestly, I'm not much of an overclocker, so hopefully that one will do :)

Thanks again for your help.
 
Ok, how about this?:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-108-030&depa=0

Specifications:
- MCW6000-P™ Intel® Pentium® 4, socket 478 compatible water-block
- MCR80-F2 Radiator with (1) 80x80x25mm fans rated at 31.4 CFM and 28dbA, (2) worm-drive clamps
- MCP600™ 12 Volts DC industrial pump (connects directly to computer power supply )
- FBK525™ fill and bleed kit assembly
- 12 feet 1/2" vinyl tubing, and tube inserts
- 2 Oz bottle HydrX™ extreme duty coolant
- Arctic Alumina™ thermal paste
- Coolsleeves™ Clear 40" length
- Set of two 3/8" tube to 1/2" tube OD quick-connect fittings (blue and red collets)


Is that everything I need to get started, or do I need anything else?
 
Vile said:
Ok, how about this?:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-108-030&depa=0

Specifications:
- MCW6000-P™ Intel® Pentium® 4, socket 478 compatible water-block
- MCR80-F2 Radiator with (1) 80x80x25mm fans rated at 31.4 CFM and 28dbA, (2) worm-drive clamps
- MCP600™ 12 Volts DC industrial pump (connects directly to computer power supply )
- FBK525™ fill and bleed kit assembly
- 12 feet 1/2" vinyl tubing, and tube inserts
- 2 Oz bottle HydrX™ extreme duty coolant
- Arctic Alumina™ thermal paste
- Coolsleeves™ Clear 40" length
- Set of two 3/8" tube to 1/2" tube OD quick-connect fittings (blue and red collets)


Is that everything I need to get started, or do I need anything else?
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thats a decent kit, but would not perform as well as a dangerden kit.
 
i was going to get that kit before i got my koolance. but decided against it because people said that with that small radiator i would need to run 2 radiators with all the stuff i was cooling and i didnt have much room in my case.
 
the maze4 isnt that great of a cpu waterblock... instead of the black ice rad, go with a heatercore (from dangerden or anywhere else) its only 30 bucks @ dangerden, and preforms just as well (if not slightly better) than the blackice
 
If you want a 120mm rad, and have room for a thick unit, go to www.detkcustoms.com and get the JR-120 or pro-core. Both are great units, and cheaper than the black ice. Black ice has one benefit...it's thin. It doesn't have as much surface area to dissipte heat though and does cost a bit more.

If you saw the rig in my sig's link...that raditaor in the front of the case is a JR-120 with dual fans on it. That thing works wonders. Keeps my cpu, northbridge, and vidcard nice and cool.

As far as the 8600 kit....either buy it with two 80mm rads, or just get the first kit. The radiator being smaller does mean less area to dissipate heat, which menas higher temps. It will keep your cpu cool, and at a decent noise level...but if you atart adding blocks it will get bogged down quickly. I ended up using a tornado on mine after I put in the VGA and northbridge blocks the first time...kinda conterproductive to buy a WC kti for quiet..then strapping a banshee of a fan onto the rad :rolleyes:

Seriously though...the dual 120mm fan in the 22xxx kit will work better. Also look at kits from danger den and D-tek.
 
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