Whether you love them or detest them it appears that watercooled PSU's are making an appearance here in the USA. For a long time now watercooled PSU's are fairly common in Europe. Now the SilentMaxx PSU are being imported here in the USA. Anyone know about these as to how good the supply is?
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Water cooled PSU's
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ozziegn said:hmmmm.... water and power supply are two words that I would think wouldnt sit in too well in the same sentence.
But everyone that doesn't use water cooling already says the same thing about water comming milimeters from a a couple hundred dollars worth of computer parts.... I'd think adding another 200 buck wouldn't be that bad, lol....
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Boy, another product from Sharka, who would have ever thought..................Top Nurse said:
I hope you get a percentage from them....................
I haven't heard of those PSU yet, but I'm sure they are just a rebadged version of one of the German ones. And the price they are asking is a joke IMHO, but I've always thought that Sharka was to high on everything they sell.
Read around some of the German water cooling sites and I'm sure you'll find a review or 2 of that PSU if you're really interested in finding out how good they are.
If I were to get one I think I'd order direct from a Europian reseller, might take longer, but I'd be willing to wait for a better price and service.
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i think watercooled PSU are just too over priced.
basically, it is just a normal psu with a very simple design waterblock.
that psu that u showed was basically a psu, with a waterblock (similar design to a 5.25bay waterblock) sticking outside the psu, and have all the mosfet attached to it....
i really think dun it worths $250. besides, u can actually DIY one pretty easily. and i guess its pretty safe too, since the waterblock is actually outside the psu, so even if waterleaks, it wont be inside the psu
alternatively, why not just use a fanless psu? such as the antec phantom500?
u are going to have a fan on your radiator anyway (except passive rad), it is not make your system quieter by getting rid of the psu fan. and its also adding more heat to the water too by having the psu waterblock.
basically, it is just a normal psu with a very simple design waterblock.
that psu that u showed was basically a psu, with a waterblock (similar design to a 5.25bay waterblock) sticking outside the psu, and have all the mosfet attached to it....
i really think dun it worths $250. besides, u can actually DIY one pretty easily. and i guess its pretty safe too, since the waterblock is actually outside the psu, so even if waterleaks, it wont be inside the psu
alternatively, why not just use a fanless psu? such as the antec phantom500?
u are going to have a fan on your radiator anyway (except passive rad), it is not make your system quieter by getting rid of the psu fan. and its also adding more heat to the water too by having the psu waterblock.
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altec said:
dun think that will work. u will need some modding still. the best way is that if u can get a heatpipe, weld it on the psu heatsink, and extend the heatpipe to the outside of the psu and weld the other end of the heat pipe to the waterblock
nice and easy
wengchiochan said:dun think that will work. u will need some modding still. the best way is that if u can get a heatpipe, weld it on the psu heatsink, and extend the heatpipe to the outside of the psu and weld the other end of the heat pipe to the waterblock
nice and easy
I could do it.
Bio-Hazard said:
Hey if you know somebody else that's got them here in the USA let me know as I love competition $$
Actually this is the same PSU that Aqua Computer sells as a rebadge. Just can't seem to find any decent info on it from Aqua Computer or any other German website. If I got one of these and took pics of the inside do you think you could identify who the original manufacturer is?Price is a relative concept as I already have over $2,000 in my watercooling system already.
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fix'd for truth.wengchiochan said:
If a real manufacturer would come out with a watercooled design, i'd give it a chance. It was the same deal a couple of years ago with fanless PSUs. The el-cheapo guys started making them by getting a highly underpowered, low output supply, putting some bigger heatsink on them, and pulling out the fans. Now that, for example, Antec has their phantom line that is actually engineered to run fanless, they are worth looking at. Zalman has a good fanless design also, as the guts are Fortron Source OEM'ed. But until that happens with WC PSUs, the only one I'd trust my equipment to would be one that I did myself, based on a solid supply. I've read a guide where a guy did one to an Enermax 300w, and it was still working a year later, so it can be done
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Top Nurse said:
And what exactly makes them common in europe? Just because they are available does NOT make them common. Hell, HD watercoolers are still somewhat uncommon even in european setups, PSU's are FAR FAR FAR away from common in watercooling setups anywhere. They are simply available for purchase.
Top Nurse said:Hey if you know somebody else that's got them here in the USA let me know as I love competition $$
Price is a relative concept as I already have over $2,000 in my watercooling system already.
http://silentmaxx.com/index_eng.php
Top Nurse said:Price is a relative concept as I already have over $2,000 in my watercooling system already.
Well, in some ways price is always relative...relative to it's effective "purchasing power".
In other ways, it's quite distinct. $250 to $2000 would be more than a 10% increase in over all expense. Non-trivial in most people's books...
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Top Nurse said:
And there are numerous companies that make supercars, yet very very few people who own a sports car own a supercar. Or for a different analogy there are a number of cars that use rear mounted cameras to assist in backing up, but yet only a small number of people have them. As I said, availability has no relevance what so ever in the prevalence of a component in peoples systems.
Lots of times companies will introduce a product simply to compete with another company, or so they aren't left out. Why do you think all the car companies are doing employee pricing? Because everyone else is, it is the bandwagon effect. AC makes a watercooled PSU, so in order to not seem inferior competitors make one as well even if just to say "hey we have that too!".
<rant> It is this type of logical fallacy, or ill conceived hype that makes you seem like you are very biased towards "european watercooling". I mean what was the point of this thread. It seems more like gloating than anything else. If you truly wanted to know about the quality of the power supply you would have posted it in the PSU section, and not the watercooling section. </rant>
Erasmus354 said:
What's a Supercar? Porsche, BMW, or Mercedes? Or are you speaking about Masserati, Ferrari, and other exotics? Lots of them here of all kinds where I live.
Actually as I pointed out earlier AC doesen't make them. They buy them from SilentMaxx and call them Cool Current.
Not biased at all about anything other than good computer products, which is why I buy Innovatek, Koolance, Aqua Computer, Eheim, Lian-Li, Pioneer opticals, Creative Labs audio gear, PC Power & Cooling, and other quality gear. I even have a Danger Den Fillport so don't say I don't like American goods.
The point of this thread was to hopefully find out about the SilentMaxx water cooled PSU before buying it and finding out that it isn't going to do what I want it to do. Actually I did post over in the PSU area a while back about water cooled PSU's. The answer I got back was basically ??? No one knew of any as they had only seen the occassional backroom modded PSU.
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Maybe the free Genmay weekend got to me too much. Wait now it's gone
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if your just looking for a quite psu, I thinkyour prolly better off with that Thermaltake fanless one. About 100 bucks for 400W and it only uses some heat sinks with no fans...
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For the price you could buy a very, did I already say very? Nice psu with *much* more than 18amps on 12v line.
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$250? Seasonic s12 600w, Silverstone Zeus, PC Power and Cooling 510SLI, etc.Top Nurse said:
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As I mentioned earlier in this thread I already have a PCP&C 510 SLI. Want something like it but a tad quieter. I think the problem is with those 3 bladed props they put in their fans. Pushes a lot of air, but is noisy.
I can see I am going to have to re-engineer my PSU for some better cooling. Fortunately I think I can use my Aquaero to control the PSU fan based on temps coming off the heatsinks.
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Top Nurse said:As I mentioned earlier in this thread I already have a PCP&C 510 SLI. Want something like it but a tad quieter. I think the problem is with those 3 bladed props they put in their fans. Pushes a lot of air, but is noisy.
Ok then try the Seasonic S12 series. For a faned PSU it is going to be about the quietest (not counting that Silenx mess
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TN : I definitely recommend the Seasonic S12 series. I recently got the S12-500W for my new computer and the thing really is dead silent. The powersupplies have 80% efficiency, one single 120mm fan that runs on low all the time, and they have good power delivery and amperage. I got the 500W model for 105$ from case-mod.com, you can get the 600W model for like 130$ from places like xoxide I believe. The 600W model should be very similar to your PCP&C 510 minus the jets taking off in the background when your computer gets under load
And about the powersupply, nobody can really tell you about the Silentmaxx watercooled powersupply. However if you were to find out what OEM powersupply was used to make the Silentmaxx then you could get some info about the quality of the PSU.
And about the powersupply, nobody can really tell you about the Silentmaxx watercooled powersupply. However if you were to find out what OEM powersupply was used to make the Silentmaxx then you could get some info about the quality of the PSU.