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Wanting a 512GB SSD

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ShadeZeRO

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Hey all,

I've been reading around and it seems like there's no real "winner" when it comes to 480GB+ SSDs.

The SanDisk gets points for raw performance (480GB)
but the M4 gets points for reliabilit and real world performance (512GB).

I plan on doing a 6 month payoff on an SSD via amazon/billmelater.

What would be the best way to go? I'll be putting it into my ivy bridge samsung series 7
 
Why don't you go with two SSD's in raid 0? the failure rate on the data is the same but you actually get a cheaper price overall. It seems like it would be the best since you're motherboard already supports it.
 
I want that 512gb ssd too. But, as far as I know most 512gb ssds are slower than 256gb ssds.
 
Slower in what area? Cause I could care less about hitting 550MB/s and rather get like 80,000 IOPS of random badassness
 
true. i like top performance, every bit. just wanted to point that.
 
I should have been more specific, sorry. It's for my Samsung Series 7 17" laptop I have coming in soon. I'll be removing the CD-Rom Drive for the SSD (thus, cannot raid)
 
ShadeZeRO said:
I should have been more specific, sorry. It's for my Samsung Series 7 17" laptop I have coming in soon. I'll be removing the CD-Rom Drive for the SSD (thus, cannot raid)
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What is in your primary bay, HDD or SSD? The ODD bay might use a slower transfer rate(SATA 150).
 
ninjaturtle said:
What is in your primary bay, HDD or SSD? The ODD bay might use a slower transfer rate(SATA 150).
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I don't have the laptop yet, doesn't arrive till the 30th. But I will be replacing the stock 1TB 5400RPM drive with a seagate momentous XT (750).
 
ShadeZeRO said:
I don't have the laptop yet, doesn't arrive till the 30th. But I will be replacing the stock 1TB 5400RPM drive with a seagate momentous XT (750).
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Are you sure you want to put the SSD in the ODD bay? The XT will be faster than the stock 1TB HDD but still nowhere near that of the SSD. Also you might want to see if the chipset that the ODD connects to supports the higher speeds. It will not be a problem if you put the HDD in there since it might not max out the port. I seen some post on laptop forums concerning HDD in ODD bays that some will be SATA 150.
 
TechIsCool said:
Why don't you go with two SSD's in raid 0? the failure rate on the data is the same but you actually get a cheaper price overall. It seems like it would be the best since you're motherboard already supports it.
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Because of TRIM. It's also not always a cheaper price overall. An M4 256GB drive is a few dollars over $200. Usually around $205. A single 512GB M4 is $399.

AndreRio said:
I want that 512gb ssd too. But, as far as I know most 512gb ssds are slower than 256gb ssds.
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Since when?

Go with the Crucial M4 512GB, it's been on sale for ~$400 recently making it a great price.
 
TechIsCool said:
Why don't you go with two SSD's in raid 0? the failure rate on the data is the same but you actually get a cheaper price overall. It seems like it would be the best since you're motherboard already supports it.
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actually, the data rate failure is 2x. Two devices chance to fail v one device. Assuming their the same devices and failure rate is equal between smaller and larger versions.
 
ninjaturtle said:
Are you sure you want to put the SSD in the ODD bay? The XT will be faster than the stock 1TB HDD but still nowhere near that of the SSD. Also you might want to see if the chipset that the ODD connects to supports the higher speeds. It will not be a problem if you put the HDD in there since it might not max out the port. I seen some post on laptop forums concerning HDD in ODD bays that some will be SATA 150.
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I'll be putting the momentous xt on the ODD bay. The SSD will be primary. I'm just trying to figure out which SSD will be best.

Crucial M4= reliability, but I'm looking for best performance. The Sandisk looks very nice. Any other suggestions? There are a lot of sales at the moment.
 
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I want that 512gb ssd too. But, as far as I know most 512gb ssds are slower than 256gb ssds.
Since when?

It depends on the internal controller. Most SSD's get much of their speed by striping the data across multiple NAND die, some with parity information striped across the die as well, some with other methods (such as raid4ish using a spare die for parity). Some of the controllers scale to larger number of die (or bigger die) better than others. It is not something that is seen in all drives, and can also manifest itself in different ways. The 256 Might have slower read vs faster write or vice versa (512 vs 256). One example I can quickly find is http://.com/our-reviews/ocz-vertex-...used-and-game-changing-performance-results/3/
In any case, the differences usually just show up in synthetic benchmarks and the difference in real world use or the "feel" of it are largely nil. Buy what works for you.
 
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A single 512GB M4 is $399.
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That's nice to know, I'm dying to get a SSD to replace my main 500GB HDD in my laptop.
Looks like the 512GB drives are starting to creep into most "bang for your buck" zone. :)
 
ninjaturtle said:
That's nice to know, I'm dying to get a SSD to replace my main 500GB HDD in my laptop.
Looks like the 512GB drives are starting to creep into most "bang for your buck" zone. :)
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That M4 is very tempting.

My choices have been narrowed down to (either 256/480/512gb):
SandDisk Extreme SSD
Samsung 830
Intel 520 (probly not though)
Crucial M4
 
Samsung 830 is a good choice, looks sweet too, rock bottom prices... Intel 520 is overpriced considering it;s the same drive as the Kingston HyperX SSD with 5K PE NAND, firmware is the same too although Kingston is a few versions behind.
Crucial M4 is not bad but again, they've had their own share of SATA negotiation issues and time related bugs.
Sandisk, honestly, who buys Sandisk SSDs, maybe USB drives but that's it.
You can't go wrong wiht a Sandforce drive, just don't buy from a cheesy manufacturer (OCZ or ADATA) and make sure they have a good support service and UP TO DATE firmware. Either way, stick to M4, Sandforce based drive (Intel, Kingston) or Samsung 830 (very reliable so far).
 
The Crucial @ $399 is an awesome deal.

For SF-2281 drives I would look at the Mushkin Chronos Deluxe, it is around $400ish and uses 34nm toggle NAND (fast, like the Vert 3 MAX IOPS, OWC Mercury, Patriot Wildfire) it is as fast/faster than the 520 and cheaper.

The 830 is another great option depending on price.
 
If you can get a 830 for the right price, it's a great option at 512GB. The M4 is slightly slower at 512GB than 256GB, but they're great too and attractively priced.
 
I ordered the samsung 830 in a 256GB configuration for $200. Too bad a week later I saw the M4 for $349 :(
 
ShadeZeRO said:
I ordered the samsung 830 in a 256GB configuration for $200. Too bad a week later I saw the M4 for $349 :(
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And today its $305 on NewEgg small business (with the 10% off code)...

Had to buy one..
 
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