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Originally posted by Gunter
Ive got a Koolance, overclocked by 1Ghz right now, temp is 33C at load.
CaNNoN neither. make your own setup. save yourself 50-100$ and get twice the performance.
Originally posted by CaNNoN
neither. make your own setup. save yourself 50-100$ and get twice the performance.
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Originally posted by kronchev
exactly. koolance is for little AOLers who buy all their stuff at compusa, and exos is for complete idiots who cant handle hooking up a few tubes together.
if you consider high-end+ air cooling perfomance lacking then go with a custom wc setup. if you want an ultra easy seutp, good performing wc system, go with the exos. [h]ard even uses them to test hardware with so they must be good.Originally posted by kronchev
exactly. koolance is for little AOLers who buy all their stuff at compusa, and exos is for complete idiots who cant handle hooking up a few tubes together.
dangerden is the best way to go, the kits are good for someone starting out. personally id use a heatercore but that involves changing the barbs, so buy a blackice or whatever the rads they sell are
from koolance.com specs, check the weight difference between the models...Originally posted by oqvist
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Not exos though the version before it. It´s the same except it´s not mobile. I wouldn´t want to use it on LAN anyway. I have never really understand why but it weights a ton. Even with no water in it. I guess those radiators are really heavy.
Originally posted by mustang_steve
The Exos looks nice for someone running a system outside of a case, since this unit has everything but the tubes/block in it's own enclosure.
If I ever get my dream of having a hardware review site up and running (I just don't have the time or space for it right now), an Exos is on my shortlist of things to buy for my testing area, along with a Senfu Tech Station.
Originally posted by oqvist
Funny how those DIY:ers think those pre build stuff sucks.
Of course it´s cheaper to do it yourself. Everything is cheaper if you do it yourself. Fixing your car. Buy a computer and set it up yourself.
However it´s hard to do a system yourself especially if you have only aircooled before. That is what so good with buying prebuild packages you know they work well together and that the pump probably won´t die within a year or so.
Koolance is great. Koolance is high end.
It´s not the quitest watercooling available. It´s not the highest performing watercooling available. It´s not the cheapest to buy.
However it´s about the best all arounder available. It do cool well. It do run as low or high as you want. It´s a breeze to setup which makes it especially good for a watercooler newbie. It´s safer then many other watercooling setups since it can shutdown itself.
And the support is great. I don´t know what the warrantys are for those setups you build yourself?
I am glad I picked a Koolance instead of trying a start up kit. I don´t think I would have succeeded getting a better solution. Either I would get some monster pumps with a lot of waterflow which make my computer sound like a jet again which was much of the reason I went watercooling or I would have problem with fitting it in my case or anything other.
It would have been a lot of unwanted research and much more modding needed for probably worse results in term of all around performance.
Afterall I don´t enjoy mixing things up in my case. I generally just want to use my computer. Only messing with it when I need to.
Originally posted by Linte_Loco
Bravo...
My thoughts exactly.
I have a Koolance case and it has been trouble free. Now that I`m "comfortable" with water in my PC, It`s time to work on my own setup. I`m by no means new to building PC`s.....but water in my case is something I took my time about.
Originally posted by kronchev
Again, what's wrong with buying your stuff from dangerden? it WILL outperform the exos/koolance (didnt know those were the same, thanks for the info), no question at all. Its do it yourself in the way that you dont buy a kit really, you pick the parts yourself. If you put your computer together, you can handle this. it may be a little more (put together the one I would get and its $250, maze 4 w/ copper top, 1/2 inch OD, BI xtreme black, sunon 120, 7 ft tygon, cylinder res, water wetter, clamps) but youll have the satisfaction of 1) putting it together yourself while still being safe and confident, 2) having a damn good WC system, and 3) not buying anything from compusa
Originally posted by OPUS1
Want to get into H20,
Would ether Exos or Hydrochill be a good start?
No flames please wait till I'm up to speed
Originally posted by OPUS1
OK so we have two paths to go down,
Those with prebuilt and those with scratch built,
1: What temp reductions did you see?
2: were you abale to get a noticable OCLK?
It seems to me the reason for [H]20 cooling serves 3 purposes:
1: reduce noise level
2: increase performance when OCLKing
3: reduce wear in non oclking
But if outside the box ambient temps are in the 70 degree F neighborhood,isn't that the lowest temp you'll realize on cpu?
and one more ?, can prebuilt handle vga,chipset and cooling extra stuff?
Ok no more questions
Originally posted by kronchev
H20 can go under ambient, if you have a water bong or similar sort of cooler, but that relies on evaporation so you have to fill them every day or every other day, not fill but top off.
enhiem is its own plug so thats not a power issue.
the main advantage of H20 for everyone is the quietness. The main advantage of H20 for Ocers is, it doesnt immediatly drop your procs temps, but you can keep increasing and increasing the OC and the temps will barely increase.
Originally posted by kronchev
exactly. koolance is for little AOLers who buy all their stuff at compusa, and exos is for complete idiots who cant handle hooking up a few tubes together.
dangerden is the best way to go, the kits are good for someone starting out. personally id use a heatercore but that involves changing the barbs, so buy a blackice or whatever the rads they sell are
Originally posted by Linte_Loco
It`s amazing how having flowing water inside a computer is disscused so casually
eat me! the only reason i went with koolance is because I HAVE NO ROOM IN MY CASE FOR BUILT-IN WATERCOOLING! have you thought of that? i have 2 optical drives, matrix orbital VFD, and 6 hard drives - not to mention 3 pci cards besides the videocard. all that - stuffed into a mid-tower Lian-Li. you cannot so much as stick your hand inside the case. oh, and did i mention - it is *extensively* modded.Originally posted by kronchev
exactly. koolance is for little AOLers who buy all their stuff at compusa, and exos is for complete idiots who cant handle hooking up a few tubes together.
true - but how *transportable* are they? i needed to be able to move my case around at will, without having to disconnect hoses and stuff. c'mon - this solution was PERFECT for me, and i'm sure there are others who would agree. not everyone owns a house with dedicated computer room. not everyone never takes their computer anywhere (work, friends', lan parties). i am not saying my solution is better than yours - i am saying that my solution works for me better than yours could work for me.Originally posted by kleptophobiac
There are plenty of people who make their own external units.
true dat! my pc is 80lb - eighty pounds! - and i too move it around, including lans. let's agree to disagree.Originally posted by kleptophobiac
Some people here have done really slick jobs of making external units that are just as transportable as the koolance. Also, my computer weighs as much as a bag of bricks, being steel and watercooled, yet I move it to lans all the time.