vram fell of my memory stick

Discussion in 'Memory' started by multi-tasking_guy, Apr 12, 2018.

  1. multi-tasking_guy

    multi-tasking_guy [H]Lite

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    im not sure what those square black things on my memory stick are called, i think they are vram?

    anyways, my "vram" fell off my memory stick

    how can i put them back on?

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  2. Master_shake_

    Master_shake_ Little Bitch

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    you can't

    well you can but you have to bake it.

    there are guides YMMV

    i think it's dead though.

    did you remove a heat spreader?
     
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  3. Ocellaris

    Ocellaris Ginger @le, an alcoholic's best friend.

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    You can’t put them back on. Throw it out at the nearest electronics recycling place and move on.
     
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  4. Mega6

    Mega6 Gawd

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    duct tape or crazy glue.
     
  5. multi-tasking_guy

    multi-tasking_guy [H]Lite

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    it seems like such a waste to throw them out
     
  6. Ocellaris

    Ocellaris Ginger @le, an alcoholic's best friend.

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    Well don’t ruin sticks of RAM next time.
     
  7. auntjemima

    auntjemima Hand Jobs Legend

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    Yeah, I want some back story on this.
     
  8. EVIL-SCOTSMAN

    EVIL-SCOTSMAN [H]ardness Supreme

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    And we have a winner folks!
     
  9. Formula.350

    Formula.350 Gawd

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    I hate that we've reached this point in our societies that it's hard to determine whether someone is just trolling, or actually being legitimate :confused:

    On the one hand... his past posts seem to show limited computing knowledge, but even then I can't imagine why he'd want to take a RAM's heatspreader off except out of pure curiosity (which I've exhibited myself, but never pried on them hard enough if they weren't showing signs of budging).

    On the other hand... He could be an average computer user who was indeed curious, and they're an old set of RAM that wasn't being used. However, it didn't come off so easily, yanking the IC's off in the process. From there he concluded "What a great joke it'd be if I played dumb and posted this asking how to put them back on...". And lets be honest, that would be a really great joke lol (please note: I'm in no way implying you are dumb, multi-tasking_guy, it's just a figure of speech!)



    That being said, to be actually helpful: It's rather unlikely they simply "fell off" and it's pretty evident that there were some sort of cooling affixed to them by the left-over thermal-tape (aka "frag tape" for those of us old enough to know it by that name [thought I never really understood why 'frag' was included, unless for more performance and thus higher FPS, therefore, more fragging *shrug] ). We all do "boneheaded" thinks at some point in our computing life, so if that's the case, you can own up to it. Back when you needed a flat-head screwdriver to push down on a spring-steel clip to attach the heatsink... you have no idea how many times it slipped off and stabbed a motherboard. Sometimes we get luck and only superficial damage, sometimes... broken traces and you've just screwed over your brand new motherboard :(

    Now, to play the devil's advocate, if you already determined somehow that the ICs had de-soldered and you removed the heatspreaders to confirm your theory... Well, it'd have been better to leave them on and submit a Warranty Claim since the majority of RAM come with lifetime warranty.

    Lastly, what you have are "DRAM IC", which have fallen off your stick of RAM. The term "VRAM" is generally used specifically to refer to the RAM on graphics cards, meaning Video-RAM. However, it can also refer to Virtual RAM, but that's usually called VMEM, to avoid confusion. That's when hard drive space is allocated to store system tasks to free of actual memory.
     
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  10. Mega6

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    Maybe it's three different people using the same HarD account?
     
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  11. Formula.350

    Formula.350 Gawd

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    But then it'd be "multi-personality_guy"... :D lol
     
  12. pendragon1

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    its only 2 chips it will still work fine. just pop it back in a run it with a few MBs less. youll never notice the difference.
    IF you do have issues use bathroom caulking to reattach the chips and you should be gtg. ive tried everything and plain old white caulk works best for loose chips like this, better than crazy glue!
     
  13. Formula.350

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    Yep... I need to either go to bed, or get off the internet completely.... I can't tell tell if ol' pendragon is saying that seriously, or in jest! :cautious: Cuz as far as re-attaching a heatspreader, I'd say a dab of caulk or RTV would work better than glue for this. However, I wouldn't do that without prepping the metal-to-IC surface to remove the tape, and then use some thermal compound on each chip...

    It's the "go and use it" that is honestly the part that gives me pause! lmao That's only because I'd never consider to ever try it that way, let alone feel confident enough that it may even work o_0

    Here's hoping my issue is it being 1:30am.... :asshat:
     
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  14. defaultluser

    defaultluser I B Dum

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    You used to be able to fix this shit. Then we transitioned to BGA, because the existing interfaces are too slow.
     
  15. Dan_D

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    First off, that's DRAM, not VRAM. Those are DRAM IC's that have fallen off the module. Secondly, It looks like heat spreaders were removed from the RAM which lead to breakage of the module. As others have said, you can't reattach BGA style ICs. That RAM is useless trash now.
     
  16. pclov3r

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    IT IS possible but it's not easy and requires a BGA reball machine which are not cheap. Upwards of several thousand.


    For FWIW tho it's dead to a typical consumer and hobbyist.
     
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  17. cyclone3d

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    Ummmm.. you don't have to have a BGA reball machine. All you need for low volume work is the correct mask, the correct size solder balls, and a rework station with a hot air gun.

    You have to remove the old solder balls from the chips and the cirrcuit board first and clean both before putting it back together.

    However, when a chip rips off the board like that, it probably took some of the solder points as well which makes it a completely moot point.

    And for future reference, it is much safer and easier to remove heatspreaders if you heat them up first so it weakens the bond.
    To me it looks like the OP took the ram, grabbed the heatspreader and just yanked it off.
     
  18. Aenra

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    This one was cute :)

    Reminded me of my ma calling home one evening to tell me the microwave oven "broke".
    You know, like it broke on its own, yessir, just so.
    So you drive over, how have you been, you no longer love me, blah blah blah and eventually get to the point and insist, it turns out maybe the goddam flower vase she puts on top shouldn't have "toppled".
    You know, like it toppled on its own, yessir, just so.
     
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  19. Chikia12187

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    how does that happen LOL
     
  20. Kyle_Bennett

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    Apparently they have upped their game when it comes to attaching those heatspreaders.
     
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