Voodoo 5 6000 AGP

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Nice! I need to pay attention to you guys more often.
 
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Gone or relisted...

Here's what i gathered to test against what i paid to see if i overpaid:


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so possibly worth 5-6 grand USD at the top end...
 

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erek, Am I understanding correctly that the V5 6K up was your's and was simply you doing research with no intent to sell it? Just wanting to make sure I'm following based on what you've said since that's how it came across to me :p

If it was, it would've sure been funny... My friend linked me that right when it went up on eBay and I contemplated PMing you on here about it! Then I considered that with eBay's ability to let you setup Searches that automatically ping you when new results show up, that you'd have plenty of 3Dfx tailored ones to alert you and already knew. :)
 
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erek, Am I understanding correctly that the V5 6K up was your's and was simply you doing research with no intent to sell it? Just wanting to make sure I'm following based on what you've said since that's how it came across to me :p

If it was, it would've sure been funny... My friend linked me that right when it went up on eBay and I contemplated PMing you on here about it! Then I considered that with eBay's ability to let you setup Searches that automatically ping you when new results show up, that you'd have plenty of 3Dfx tailored ones to alert you and already knew. :)

yes, that's correct, i just wanted to see if i potentially got ripped off myself with real-world non-hypothetical offers.

even for 25K i wouldn't part with her, not for sale, heh
 

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yes, that's correct, i just wanted to see if i potentially got ripped off myself with real-world non-hypothetical offers.

even for 25K i wouldn't part with her, not for sale, heh

sneaky devil, I'll have to remember this tactic next time I want to find the value on something rare...
 
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do you think it was a bad idea in some manner or mostly harmless?
Personally, a little of column A, a little of column B...
Your reasons were valid, as it's really the only way I can think of to get genuine and unbiased offers (as in not offers from friends who may be willing to pay more).
On the other hand... if you didn't have a 6K yet and had seen one pop up on eBay like that, only to disappear shortly after, how would you have felt? Excitement, since it was a huge goal of yours (and you have the money), followed by feeling rather dejected I imagine, and possibly unhappy at the situation.

That's just my take. Given I don't have aspirations of owning a 6K (as I find my AA5's to be superior lol), I'm looking at the situation without bias.
 

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do you think it was a bad idea in some manner or mostly harmless?

Not something I’d make a habit of... but I don’t think there is anything inherently wrong in this case. Had someone actually made the purchase and completed the transaction at 15k, that would be a different story. Assuming a person had bought and paid, then you really shouldn’t consider cancelling the the transaction.

Edit: thought about this some more - I know eBay keeps a tally behind the scenes for certain actions. I’m willing to bet they would eventually restrict a seller that did this repeatedly
 

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I know eBay keeps a tally behind the scenes for certain actions. I’m willing to bet they would eventually restrict a seller that did this repeatedly

Correct me if I'm wrong but if Ebay thinks you sold an item that was listed and then cancelled and then sold outside the platform they can charge you a final value fee. In this case in excess of $1500

They monitor best offers and communications between buyers and sellers and there is this warning when doing so.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong but if Ebay thinks you sold an item that was listed and then cancelled and then sold outside the platform they can charge you a final value fee. In this case in excess of $1500

They monitor best offers and communications between buyers and sellers and there is this warning when doing so.

Very true, they do monitor this but I'm certain the review process is at least partly manual. I've had to contact ebay support for shady sellers on a few occasions. Even last year I had a weird exchange with a seller trying to get me to pay outside of ebay using Venmo and suggesting they would offer a discount. That wasn't the only red flag with that seller, so I went to ebay support to get the entire transaction removed.

Once I brought it up to support, then they checked my account and reviewed the messages sent by both parties. Wild guess here - there is probably some dollar amount threshold where they will automatically review any messages. I can tell you the purchase I made (with the Venmo request) was for just under $500. So any automatic monitoring is either random or at some number north of $500...
 

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Ebay is shady as hell.. you can get anything reversed by calling them. Just a few weeks ago I bought a brand new (New Old Stock) Zalman cooler from a guy. (as described and pictured by his listing) I received it and it was used as hell, missing the mounts for Socket A that I needed, which was the specific reason I bought it, and the LEDs so dim you couldn't hardly see them lit up. I contacted the seller for a return -- he immediately went on the offense being extremely hostile using expletives saying I was lying and I was trying to scam him and that nobody wins cases against him.. then he immediately called Ebay and they sided with him, despite me providing photographic proof. They invalidated my return and I'm out $30 with shipping. So I called Ebay and they said their agent who talked to him violated protocol, but what was done was done and that other employee "would be coached" and they're extremely sorry. I paid with Paypal, but Paypal says I have to use the Ebay marketplace in order to ask for a refund, which that option is no longer available. There's not even a Paypal case option to generate a dispute request. The only option I have is to call my credit card company to get the charges reversed. I left him negative feedback warning others, and he called Ebay and got that removed too. So... case in point -- if you really want to play the system, all you have to do is call Ebay on the phone and they'll do pretty much anything you want if you act first and act like a prick.
 
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Ebay is shady as hell.. you can get anything reversed by calling them. Just a few weeks ago I bought a brand new (New Old Stock) Zalman cooler from a guy. (as described and pictured by his listing) I received it and it was used as hell, missing the mounts for Socket A that I needed, which was the specific reason I bought it, and the LEDs so dim you couldn't hardly see them lit up. I contacted the seller for a return -- he immediately went on the offense being extremely hostile using expletives saying I was lying and I was trying to scam him and that nobody wins cases against him.. then he immediately called Ebay and they sided with him, despite me providing photographic proof. They invalidated my return and I'm out $30 with shipping. So I called Ebay and they said their agent who talked to him violated protocol, but what was done was done and that other employee "would be coached" and they're extremely sorry. I paid with Paypal, but Paypal says I have to use the Ebay marketplace in order to ask for a refund, which that option is no longer available. There's not even a Paypal case option to generate a dispute request. The only option I have is to call my credit card company to get the charges reversed. I left him negative feedback warning others, and he called Ebay and got that removed too. So... case in point -- if you really want to play the system, all you have to do is call Ebay on the phone and they'll do pretty much anything you want if you act first and act like a prick.
Man that's.... huh...
I could deal with that nonsense of not being sided with and being screwed out of some money on something (thankfully it was only $30 and while missing mounting hardware, at least is still a functional heatsink otherwise [silver lining, here])...
But for them to then remove your feedback... That undermines that entire function of feedback!! :( I do somewhat understand the logic behind removing it but at the same time it's also a little disingenuous. If you remove all negative feedback against someone you can't notice any sort of potential pattern that may be emerging. They may indeed have been 90% happy dealings with him, but that 10% also matters when the buyer isn't happy, even if they are in the wrong (not that you are, just in general).

Makes me wonder if he has a friend that's an eBay CSR which he specifically calls and that's why he is so willing to gloat that "no body wins cases against me"? That, or he just has a silver tongue and knows just what to say (con man).

On that note, don't know which heatsink you went with but any chance the clip on this one would work with yours? :\ Cheapest vintage Zalman I could find (aside from this one with additional mounting hardware I'm unfamiliar with).
 

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Man that's.... huh...
I could deal with that nonsense of not being sided with and being screwed out of some money on something (thankfully it was only $30 and while missing mounting hardware, at least is still a functional heatsink otherwise [silver lining, here])...
But for them to then remove your feedback... That undermines that entire function of feedback!! :( I do somewhat understand the logic behind removing it but at the same time it's also a little disingenuous. If you remove all negative feedback against someone you can't notice any sort of potential pattern that may be emerging. They may indeed have been 90% happy dealings with him, but that 10% also matters when the buyer isn't happy, even if they are in the wrong (not that you are, just in general).

Makes me wonder if he has a friend that's an eBay CSR which he specifically calls and that's why he is so willing to gloat that "no body wins cases against me"? That, or he just has a silver tongue and knows just what to say (con man).

On that note, don't know which heatsink you went with but any chance the clip on this one would work with yours? :\ Cheapest vintage Zalman I could find (aside from this one with additional mounting hardware I'm unfamiliar with).
It was a Zalman CNPS7000B-CU. I ended up getting mounts from someone on Vogons, and purchasing another new cooler that was actually new and not used. I submitted a claim through my credit card to get the charges reversed on the crappy used one I originally received.
 
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