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VMware View 4.6 Desktop Management-Structure

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This question is for current View 4.6 users or experts of said software.

Part of our upgrade from VI 3.5 to vSphere 4.1 U1 included a VDI Cluster. I have setup another cluster for Desktops and have the View Connection Server and View Composer set up. I'm not having any technical issues per say, as it's been pretty straight forward, love using the Linked Clones..etc. My question really is how the user community here is structuring their Desktop Pools within vCenter? I see a lot of people using Resource Pools etc for their different types of desktops, while, i can do that, I still haven't determined if that's the best route as of yet.

We have 5 different types of desktops by functions composed of about 175 users which will grow to around 600, and another dedicated grouping of about 15 which will potentially tripple in size based on our first 200 rollout.

I would like this structured..right now it's 6 separate resource pools..but I don't think i'll be gaining anything by segmenting by that.

How are you guys/gals doing it here in your production environments?

Thanks!
 
Resource pools can be used to separate VMs apart, now depending on if you set restrictions or limits on those resource pools thats a whole different realm.

you can use Resource pools just as a separator and not inhibit the use of the systems, keep in mind if you start becoming resource constraint then you will need to factor that in.

i see tons of people just use resource pools as just a container and the ones that see use as a limiting container seem to have a lot more problems as some of their users will suffer and others will react better. theres a tricky balance to it all.

restricting shares would be probably the first thing i would do if you were going to go down that path, (NEVER SET LIMITS on VM's it causes too many headaches) but again this is all dependent on how you setup your pools and how many vCPUs/Memory allocated to the VMs and what kind of resources you have and are availiable.

if you would like to talk further PM Me.
 
That makes sense. Right now, I do not have any limitations on these pools and it looks like the best way to go about Desktop Pool separation.

Thanks!
 
Also one other thing i forgot to mention...

NEVER... NEEEEEVER disable your DRS as it will destroy ALL resource pools and your view environment will go blitz.

if you need to ever stop DRS change it to manual :)
 
Gaaahh...good reading. So I can create folders under my datacenter for the VM's I guess to show separation?
 
Gaaahh...good reading. So I can create folders under my datacenter for the VM's I guess to show separation?

Yes. Don't use RPs for that. Also, I very highly suggest Frank and Duncan's DRS/HA book. Cheap on eBook.
 
Gaaahh...good reading. So I can create folders under my datacenter for the VM's I guess to show separation?

You cannot create folders in the Hosts and Clusters view (or at least not for virtual machine separation -- you can create folders there to separate datacenters and clusters though), so you cannot have folders for objects below a cluster in the hierarchy. Neither hosts nor VMs. Annoying, I know, so use the VMs and Templates view and take the idea of separating VMs from their physical location by the horns. You'll be happy if you do ;). Resource pools are definitely NOT the way to go for organization. I usually hide the VMs when in the Hosts and Clusters view, because if I'm there I want to work on host configurations or cluster settings and not virtual machines. It's become unintuitive to work on virtual machines from the Hosts and Clusters view with an environment as big as mine. The only thing that still annoys me is the VMs and Templates view still separates the VMs by Datacenter, but I suppose that just makes sense.

VMs and Templates is a lot better for VM organization anyway, it's how I assign all permissions into my environment. I can think of uses for assigning permissions on the infrastructure side for people responsible for certain hardware or something, but I've never had a case where that was actually necessary.
 
i should have also mentioned that people that i have seen that use resource pools that way

1) have no vms outside of resource pools
2) balance the # of vms across the resource pools

agreed it shouldnt be really used as a folder structure but for a view only environment it has been seen done this way.

i do plan on talking around the office here and see if theres something that can be changed about this....
 
Annoying, I know, so use the VMs and Templates view and take the idea of separating VMs from their physical location by the horns.]

I don't know why that never crossed my mind..but your hit the nail on the head!...Thanks!
 
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