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Vista easy upgrade

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OK, i just bought a new HP laptop and what i am wondering is if when i do the vista upgrade rebate thing and they send me a copy of vista is it 64 bit or 32 bit sorry if its a newb ? but i really dont know

and i have MS media center 2005
 
Soujiro said:
It'll be the 32-bit version of Vista Home Premium.
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Are you certain it will be the 32-bit version and not the 64-bit? Is Vista home premium a 64-bit, or is it both, or is it purely 32-bit?
 
becuase i find it pointless for me to install vista on my laptop if it isnt going to be 64 bit
 
You can request for the 64-bit version, but if you say nothing you'll only get the 32-bit one.
 
so does that mean i have to wait for HP to open up the online rebate ordering...becuase right now it isnt available online..only mail in..and their really isnt a place for me to request it on the rebate form
 
You will get a DVD that offers the choice of a 32b install or a 64b install. Thats the only way Microsoft is selling it (right now). 32b will be completely dead to enthusiasts in no more than 2 years when the 2g memory limit starts to really rear its ugly head... MS is prepared with a dual option on one DVD... Smart, eh?
 
Not so much 2 GB as 3.something - I ran XP32 with my four gigs for a while, kept wondering where about .5 GB of my RAM went.
 
LstOfTheBrunnenG said:
Not so much 2 GB as 3.something - I ran XP32 with my four gigs for a while, kept wondering where about .5 GB of my RAM went.
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Your right, it works out to 3.25 on some boards, 3.5 on others.. depends on the motherboard, i understand..

i call it 2 gigs, because anything more than that gets ugly... like 2 x 1g and 2 x 512m? Not exactly an overclockers dream.
 
Vista is not being distributed in both 32 and 64 bit editions on the same DVD - it's impossible to do that since both editions simply will not fit on a single layer DVD5 - and Microsoft isn't about to pony up the additional expense to release Vista on a dual layer DVD9 disc.

The "AIO" thing floating around out there is a hack job by the WinBeta boys that uses pointers from 32 bit files to be re-used in the 64 bit edition; basically if you use that disc to install the 64 bit edition, it'll have more 32 bit code in it than the actual 64 bit version of Vista would; you'll end up with a hacked "hybrid" 64 bit edition missing a lot of the native 64 bit code. It's a hack job, plain and simple, and aside from the fact it's illegal I'd avoid it just because it's a hack job and not for real.

Vista will be (and is currently being distributed in the Business edition) as a 32 bit version - the 64 bit version is available upon request for a nominal shipping & handling fee.
 
The WinBeta AIO dvd is TOTAL CRAP. I tried installing x64 from it, and networking got screwed up. I then wiped and used the official MS technet ISO and it was flawless once again.
 
Let's drop the AIO discussion. It is not a legal version of Vista and not provided by Microsoft...therefore it is known as warez or pirated software. End of that discussion.
 
bbz_Ghost said:
Vista is not being distributed in both 32 and 64 bit editions on the same DVD - it's impossible to do that since both editions simply will not fit on a single layer DVD5 - and Microsoft isn't about to pony up the additional expense to release Vista on a dual layer DVD9 disc.

The "AIO" thing floating around out there is a hack job by the WinBeta boys that uses pointers from 32 bit files to be re-used in the 64 bit edition; basically if you use that disc to install the 64 bit edition, it'll have more 32 bit code in it than the actual 64 bit version of Vista would; you'll end up with a hacked "hybrid" 64 bit edition missing a lot of the native 64 bit code. It's a hack job, plain and simple, and aside from the fact it's illegal I'd avoid it just because it's a hack job and not for real.

Vista will be (and is currently being distributed in the Business edition) as a 32 bit version - the 64 bit version is available upon request for a nominal shipping & handling fee.
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bbz, no offense, but you need to read up a bit more before you start sharing your opinion.

Paul Thurrott said:
Q: Is Windows Vista a 32-bit or 64-bit operating system?

A: Virtually every Windows Vista product edition (with the exception of Starter) ships with both 32-bit (x86) and 64-bit (x64) versions on the same DVD. Microsoft expects the computer buying public to switch to x64 during Vista's lifetime. There will not be an Itanium version of Windows Vista.
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link: http://www.winsupersite.com/faq/vista.asp
 
Actually, at last report AIUI MS had decided not to ship the 64-bit versions specifically (I remember someone pointing at an official MS subsite referring to this, but the only confirmation I could find on the Q.T. was over at ZDNet).
 
Redshirt #24 said:
Actually, at last report AIUI MS had decided not to ship the 64-bit versions specifically (I remember someone pointing at an official MS subsite referring to this, but the only confirmation I could find on the Q.T. was over at ZDNet).
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I'd be interested in seeing this, if we can find some confirmation. As you know, the Cnet link is regarding the Server OS, a completely different beast.

I have a technet direct plus subscription and I know that the (legal) .iso downloads from there are in seperate version, 32b and 64b. In the past, all the RC's and Beta's were integrated 32b\64b. And those did fit on a DVD just fine, in fact there was gig's of space left over since the code could be integrated.

I wonder why they would change things, if they did.
 
The ZDNet article's relevant paragraph:

With the exception of bargain-basement blowouts based on the last trickle of the Pentium 4 and Celeron product lines, virtually every new PC sold today is capable of running a 64-bit operating system. In fact, it's pretty easy to find a 64-bit system with adequate RAM for well under $1000. But you'll have to jump through a lot of hoops to load a 64-bit operating system on that box. Most PC makers don't offer 64-bit software on their mainstream lines, and Microsoft has decided, sensibly, that it won't include the 64-bit version of Vista in any of its retail boxes; you'll have to order a DVD and have it shipped separately.
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Damn, I wish I could remember who mentioned the MS 64-bit copy order subsite...
 
The 32-bit version supports up to 4GB of RAM. Since you're using a laptop, this limit is a non-issue for you. Why do you want to 64-bit version so bad? The 32-bit version has better driver support anyway.
 
I would be surprised because the packaging is supposed to have at least two dvds, as I recall and if they don't put the 64bit in it might require retooling the package. wikipedia assumes the 64bit is still in there.
 
CEpeep said:
The 32-bit version supports up to 4GB of RAM. Since you're using a laptop, this limit is a non-issue for you. Why do you want to 64-bit version so bad? The 32-bit version has better driver support anyway.
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technically you are right about the 4g limit. Effectively its 3.25 or 3.5g that is the motherboards limit when using a 32b operating system.
 
dekard said:
technically you are right about the 4g limit. Effectively its 3.25 or 3.5g that is the motherboards limit when using a 32b operating system.
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Well, at any rate it shouldn't matter in the OP's case. I don't know of a widely available laptop that supports more than 3GB of RAM anyway.
 
CEpeep said:
Well, at any rate it shouldn't matter in the OP's case. I don't know of a widely available laptop that supports more than 3GB of RAM anyway.
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Uh you can order a number of Dell laptops with 4GB of memory...
 
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