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Video: Is this a good overclock

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Had my Sapphire 9800Pro 128mb for about a week now and i decided to overclock.

I managed it get it to 438.75 core/ 478.00 mem with no artifacts.

Just wondering if this is a good oc, and if i can get more, tried upping the core and mem seperatally and together after that point but it ended in artifacts and tears.

Stock Cooling and no ramsysncs

EDIT: the black things with the copper wired coil around it are very hot, like they hurt when touched. i toned it down to

COre: 380.25
Mem: 342.00

Anyone know the default speeds for the 9800Pro, i dont even know why i bothered to oc this card, its already amazingly fast.

Just like to return it to normal but i can remember what the core and mem is for stock. thanks
Thanks
 
that's some awsome clocks for a stock board

i hope you're using ATi Tool to find your maximum clocks...

What ram do you have on that board? from the looks of it, most likely 2.8ns Samsung xxxx8E chips...

there's modified bioses out there that give the boards with 8E chips hella magical overclockability. My Saph 9800 non-pro [3.3ns ram] is clocked @ 421/365 and if you do the math, 3.3ns ram has a max of around 303mhz [1000/3.3]...
 
i'm using the overclocker that came with the omega drivers. Should i use ati tool?

oh and btw whats a safe oc i should use at the above speeds the little black posts with the copper wire wrapped around it were extremely hot. But suprisingly the core/mem were only warm to the touch.

Anyway whats a good round about setting i should put mine to for everyday gaming use?
 
I wouldn't worry so much about heat of the chokes, artifacting is the only thing you should really worry about.

Being as you're on a stock cooler, you should probably look into getting a VGA Silencer and possibly some ramsinks.

Safe for that card im not too certain, but i'd recommend for core anything around 420-430 ish. I have no idea how well your ram clocks..

Just put it to a setting that doesn't give you any artifacts..
 
k so do i just use ati tool and click on the finx max corebutton
the the max mem button?

is there any ris of me frying my card letting this program auto detect this stuff for me?
 
Just a tip... when using ATi Tool to find your maxes, set your quality settings to really high [4x AA / 16x AF] for D3D so you have the card on a very high stress level, so it will give you numbers that will be accurate in any gaming situation.

Find your max core first, let it run for about 10-20 minutes then stop it once it seems like the core is not changing any more.
Then lower the core about 5mhz then begin doing the maximum memory testing [10 - 20 minutes]...
Then once you find the max for the memory take about 5 mhz off the memory and boost your core back up to its original best setting.

and of course top it off with a final 10-20 minutes of stressing with your new found clocks just to make sure its 100% stable.

take the numbers down and use Radlinker or Rage Tweaker to keep the clocks. You could also update the bios's default clocks.. but that's more work then neccessary.
 
excellent thank you for all your help. and obvouslly after all thats done run 3dmark to get a nice score and to look for new artificats.

I'll get this all done tommorow. its sleep time now
 
Originally posted by Master
Had my Sapphire 9800Pro 128mb for about a week now and i decided to overclock.

I managed it get it to 438.75 core/ 478.00 mem with no artifacts.

Just wondering if this is a good oc, and if i can get more, tried upping the core and mem seperatally and together after that point but it ended in artifacts and tears.

Stock Cooling and no ramsysncs

EDIT: the black things with the copper wired coil around it are very hot, like they hurt when touched. i toned it down to

COre: 380.25
Mem: 342.00

Anyone know the default speeds for the 9800Pro, i dont even know why i bothered to oc this card, its already amazingly fast.

Just like to return it to normal but i can remember what the core and mem is for stock. thanks
Thanks
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Default settings are
Core: 378
Memory: 338

When I use ATI tool on my stock ATI radeon9800 pro, The max before I get artifacting is Core: about 420, memory around 355.

Its impossible that you can push that high on stock settings especially the ram at 478. WHen I go memory 390 the Artifacting is very bad!, Did you use ATI tool yet and can overcock this high without artifacting?

ANother thing is that the memory on the ATI card gets super hot!, Go play a 3dgame that is very demanding like Rise of Nations I notice really heats that memory up. ANd make sure you touch the memory chips while in the middle of the game you won't be able to hold your finger there for more then a second.
 
Originally posted by syztem
there's modified bioses out there that give the boards with 8E chips hella magical overclockability. My Saph 9800 non-pro [3.3ns ram] is clocked @ 421/365 and if you do the math, 3.3ns ram has a max of around 303mhz [1000/3.3]...
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i have the same card... check out my sig.. 440/385 :D these cards are a beast

back to the origional poster.. there is no way your memory is gonna go that high.. but do the suggested with ati tool.. it seems to work well.. i fiddled with OCing my card and testing with 3dmark and such before ati tool came out and came out with the same exact speeds
 
W1zzard's ATI Tool owns all! Heh, testing out your OC in real-time to ensure accurate results - what a novel concept =P
 
I'll take a pic of the ram on the card this weekend, so you guys can determine what type it is, i cant figure it out for the life of me.
 
Originally posted by Unit-0
W1zzard's ATI Tool owns all! Heh, testing out your OC in real-time to ensure accurate results - what a novel concept =P
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link ? you lucky bastard i get 405/365 out of my bba 9800 pro w/ a thermaltake giant and a 80mm 34?cfm fan
 
Originally posted by Jondbold
link ? you lucky bastard i get 405/365 out of my bba 9800 pro w/ a thermaltake giant and a 80mm 34?cfm fan
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So you really believe he gets 478ram, I guess it was a typeo and he meant 378. 378 is more like it.

That stinks only 405 on core with a giant on it.
 
I hate being backwards. My mem goes up to 390MHz but my core only to 395.

BLAST!

I made my own blower card (pics coming soon, once I paint it) and that let me go another 15MHz on the ram, but only 5 on the core.
 
I had to drop core and mem by at least 10 after ATi Tool found my settings. I still got artifacting with the ones it chose. Ended up with 420/360. I have some ramsinks but I need to get more thermal tape.
 
Well i just did everything you guys said, thanks for all the help.

I managed to get a final oc of:
415.38 core
332.31 memory

doing what u guys said to take off about 5 mhz

So anyway i ran 3dmark 2001 SE and my score went down! Signifigantly!

OLD, non overclocked score: 12306
NEW oced with above core and mem: 8779

3dmark is on defualt settings so no aa or af, just 1024 res

idont know, thats enough ocing for me.

EDIT: and i dont know why ati tool found my max mem to be less than stock...
 
What .. the .. fzzuck??!

That is seriously the lowest 3Dmark2k1 score I've ever seen. It would just kill us all if you would let that be without finding the problem.

- My first question, did you install your motherboard's AGP controller drivers?
 
this max clock setting on the ATiTool is awesome!

im running it on my 9600XT as we speak

and for this "heat-up" thing, do i need to actually be worried about heat with it?



ok i maxed out at 561 so if i set it to 550 will it be "stable" or should i run the artifact test for awhile?


and, is that respectable for stock cooling?
 
The longer you run ATITool looking for artifacts / looking for max GPU / looking for max memory, the more accurate the results.

And to my knowledge, the heat-up phase is just a time when the program pushes your card to its limit so it can .. heat up. =P If it gets too hot, artifacts will pop up then the program will know to lower the speed to lower the heat and consequently kill off the artifacts.
 
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