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Video Capture Card

DarkSamurai2003

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I'm planning to get one, what's a good brand or a good card to get? And also how big would a 30 minute show be at the highest quality.

Say it's a DragonBall GT Episode and it's about 15 minutes (30 together with commercials, but I plan to take out commercials). How big would it be at the highest settings?
 
Um, if you mean a tv tuner card that can record tv shows I've read good things about the Hauppauge WinTV PVR250MCE. This card will only work in MCE or Windows XP SP1. If you don't have xp just try the regular PVR250.

Here is a link to the MCE version and this is the regular 250. Both of which are out of stock at newegg but you can probably find them elsewhere.

I read somewhere how big the files it records are but I can't remember. I'll look around.
 
Good is subjective. If your talking DV quality that's capable of broadcast resolutions and greater look no further than the Pinnacle Systems Targa 3000. I hope you brought your checkbook though because the things about $4500 or so. :eek:

What are you hoping to accomplish with it? What features are you looking for? What is your price range?
 
Any of the Matrox Line of cards, RT.X10 for $500, RT.X100 for $999 (I don't think you'd need this one unless you have money to burn or will be doing pro video soon)
You could also look at a used RT2500.

I need to know what you intend on doing with the video that you capture.
Will it be put on DVD, CD, or will it be strictly for PC playback?

DV Quality capture will result in a 6gig file for a 30minute clip.
 
I have the Hauppauge 350 card, which is decent. I paid about $240 CDN for it. It's essentially the same as the 250 card, but with an FM tuner, with an MPEG hardware decoder, and without the XP limitation.
This cards highest setting for encoding is :

MPEG2 video stream (DVD), 12Mbits/sec
MPEG1 layer 2 48khz stereo audio stream, 384 kbits/sec

Apparently this uses 2 Gigs per hour of recording. I've never used such high settings...

I'm currently using it to capture old mid-sixties cartoons.

There seems to be competition for this card. InnoVISION has announced the DV-330 . I know little of it.

As others have asked, you'll need to say how much you're willing to spend....

Edit:
I just now recorded 1 minute of cartoon at the highest setting, and the file size was 100 Megs. So..... 60 minutes works out to roughly 6 Gigs, like WS6 said for those other cards.

Edit2:
And the 30 minutes you asked for is 3 Gigs! Wee!!!!
 
$4500? You could spend that kind of money a LOT wiser for $160 you can have broadcast quality capture with HDTV resolution from an antenna! For an extra $40 you can capture digital HDTV cable (QAM ) which is the next big thing. I could save that extra $4300 that card would have cost and bought a Sanyo PLV-Z2 for $3,000 took the extra $1300, spend it on a THX 5.1 Speaker setup from NEWEGG. Then I would have an 8 ft wide, 4.5ft tall screen with lots of bass. All in HDTV wit hthe ability to capture mind you and spent the remaining money on lap dances.

Sir-Fragalot said:
Good is subjective. If your talking DV quality that's capable of broadcast resolutions and greater look no further than the Pinnacle Systems Targa 3000. I hope you brought your checkbook though because the things about $4500 or so. :eek:

What are you hoping to accomplish with it? What features are you looking for? What is your price range?
 
DO NOT BUY MSI CAPTURE CARDS.
The specs are the only good things about them. THe software doesn't word for many people EVEN ON A CLEAN OS INSTALL.
 
griff30 said:
$4500? You could spend that kind of money a LOT wiser for $160 you can have broadcast quality capture with HDTV resolution from an antenna! For an extra $40 you can capture digital HDTV cable (QAM ) which is the next big thing. I could save that extra $4300 that card would have cost and bought a Sanyo PLV-Z2 for $3,000 took the extra $1300, spend it on a THX 5.1 Speaker setup from NEWEGG. Then I would have an 8 ft wide, 4.5ft tall screen with lots of bass. All in HDTV wit hthe ability to capture mind you and spent the remaining money on lap dances.

No you can't. Crap like that won't interface with the same kind of equipment a Targa 3000 will. Also theres higher end video editiing software better than Adobe Premier that the Targa 3000 is designed for that your $250 card won't work with. When that card is advertised as broadcast quality that just means that it works at 720x480 resolution. But is not DV quality and isn't good enough for DVD video. Theres reasons professionals use expensive hardware and software like the Media 100 and the Avid Adrenaline systems.

You won't get a real time non-linear editing system that will work with NTSC monitors and are fast enough to edit data uncompressed for $200. That simply won't happen. The breakout boxes on a Targa 3000 interface with BNC/Component BNC and SVHS. You won't get that for $250. The Targa cards also capture audio and process it on their own so you don't have the syncronization issues that you would with a cheaper card with out audio capabilities.

Trust me, I work with things like the Avid stations, Media 100 systems, Edit stations using Matrox Digisuite hardware and the Targa 3000. We also have less expensive units based on the DV-500 capture cards.

Cards like the Targa 3000 process all thier data on hardware processing chips and hardware based codecs. Theres a big difference between the $500 dollar Pinnacle DV-500 and a Pinnacle Targa 3000. You won't ever see a $250 card in a professional non-linear editing system. Try working with a $200 capture card and then work with a capture system costing 5-10 grand and tell me that a $200ish dollar card is comparable. There are so many things you can do with an a professional setup that aren't possible or are very difficult at best on a lesser setup.

That being said the Matrox setup that was mentioned earlier is a good setup for the money. Depending on what your using it for.

And that projector isn't all that great. The NEC 1065 is FAR superior. That projector is entry level at best and in reality 800lumens isn't enough to use in a brightly lit room. We've got projectors that are similar and you've got to kill the lights to use them. Whereas our NEC 1065's are about 2600 lumens and they are as clear as day with flouresant office lights turned on and no window blinds during the day. (It also helps to have a really good screen for them also.)
 
Well that's why I asked what he was going to do with it. Because if all you want to do is capture some VHS stuff or record TV shows on your PC like a Tivo would do then you don't need to spend very much.

My only point was that theres a big difference between a $160-250 dollar card and a $5000 card. You get what you pay for and depending on your needs you should buy accordingly.

Since the poster never said what it was for I had no idea. For all I knew he was going to start a video production house. In which case I mentioned the tools needed for such a goal. :)
 
I've got a Pinnacle Miro DC-50 that I would sell really cheap if you are interested.
Only drawback is that I can't get it to work in XP, so you'd need to dual boot to XP and 98 or XP and ME.
Here is the breakout box for the DC50,
dc50.jpg
 
Sir-Fragalot said:
My only point was that theres a big difference between a $160-250 dollar card and a $5000 card. You get what you pay for and depending on your needs you should buy accordingly.

Since the poster never said what it was for I had no idea. For all I knew he was going to start a video production house. In which case I mentioned the tools needed for such a goal. :)

That there is.
My uses are simple. I use VirtualDubMod, AviSynth, dvd2avi, and BeSweetGUI to achive my results. It takes some time, but it's worth it considering what I want to do.
What DarkSamurai possibly wants to do is similar to what I'm doing. Of course this is just speculation... :confused:
 
WS6 said:
I've got a Pinnacle Miro DC-50 that I would sell really cheap if you are interested.
Only drawback is that I can't get it to work in XP, so you'd need to dual boot to XP and 98 or XP and ME.
Here is the breakout box for the DC50,

Aren't you on thirdgen.org as Zepher?
 
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