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Very Very Chewey..

BillR

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Anyone hit one of these wonderfully chewey

p858_p53dimer858 thingys yet?

At 2.1 gig on a barton I'm showing about 23.76 min per frame.

Not fun to watch for sure:D

BillR

Edit: Interesting..20.95 per fame on my 3200/64 running at 2.1:eek:
 
1656 Mhz - 32:32 per frame

Guess I'll have to change the values back to 160 as that is just about right for a good Gromacs work unit on this machine.
 
Yep, they are slow... seems 160 points for these is correct...
Works out about right on PPD on my systems... ouch they are slow. ;)
 
PPD huh? Remember when that use to be the SAME day?:rolleyes:

Oh well, it's all good.

Fold on

BillR
 
My comps are chewing on a 858 and an 859, both 160 pointers! It's gonna be a loooong time on those.
 
I've got two of each on my boxen.
Should get a nice spike in points when they finnish.

Luck......... :D
 
My boxen have 6 859s and 3 858s. And they are chewey!

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I've got 2 859s on my AMDs running 23-25 minutes per frame and an 858 on my P4 2.2 that is taking 40 minutes per frame.

No need to check stats until Saturday night!

FOLD ON!
 
uh, quick question, how do you know how many points a certain protein is?

I see you guys asking how long a xx point gromacs takes, etc, but where does that number come from?

[edit] nevermind, I found it...I guess it helps to read sometimes huh? :) [/edit]
 
As much as I'd like to see a 1500 point update :D

None of my machines are running 858s, i think alll of them are running 520s. Though damn that does sound chewey :)
 
Originally posted by mwarps
As much as I'd like to see a 1500 point update :D

None of my machines are running 858s, i think alll of them are running 520s. Though damn that does sound chewey :)


Your day will come.
 
22:27 a frame
37:25 hours to complete!!!!!

2.53 P4 533 bus


OUCH
 
Stanford must like them.
Now running 10 out of 11. :eek:

The odd one out is p259. for 70.77 points.
For a grand total of 1670.77 points.
Next Work unit finishes in 17 hours.

Luck......... :D
 
I had one on my main box crap out today at 58% complete. Early termination. This is the first time since the new core has come out that I've seen any problems at all. I did get partial credit for it.

Anyone else see the new "chewys" end early? Not worried, just curious.

Fold On!
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Here's a screenshot of Electron Microscope monitoring the workplace garden.
One boxen, a 450, is having trouble chewing on a 160-pt WU.
These larger WUs have increased the variability of my day-to-day production.

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I have gotten through 3 of these with no failures.

I think it may be a way to reduce the server issues by increasing the WU size to decrease the number of sessions and transmissions that are occurring;) .

No need to check stats except for once a day now.

FOLD ON!
 
Well, i just lost about 26 hours of work due to a system crash and then the wu starting over again. I know that I have posted in the folding community forums about why the gromacs core wont use check points, especially with the large ones that take so long. They never gave a really good answer as to why they cant use check points like the tinker core does. If I keep losing days worth of work then im going to have to look for a differant project. Right now all of my boxen are running these monsters and so far the only one to survive a hard lock is my server on xp pro. Before it comes up the hardlock was something that I did running another program that froze the system. The protien was at about 78% completed. ok venting is over now, still kinda pissed at losing that much work when this was addressed to vijay when they came out with the 70 pointers not using check points and starting from scratch after a lock up.

T-3
 
Had some power cuts yesterday due to the bad weather.
Did not lose any work due to the restarts.
Had two units finish early and send in results.

Otherwise still running 11 out of 11 on these 160 pointers.

From Stanford about checkpoints.

With Gromacs, these checkpoints can happen almost anywhere and they are not tied to the data recorded in the results. Initially, this was set to every 1% of a WU (like 100 frames in Tinker) and then a timed checkpoint was added every 15 minutes, so that on a slow machine, you never loose more that 15 minutes work.

So if your restarting from scratch then your system is not useing the check points.
Are you running FAH v4.

Luck........:D
 
yep fah 4 on all machines. when it locks i get the check sum error message and it starts from scratch not from a check point. seems to happen mostly with the win98 and winME boxen. It has happened on xp pro to though that is rare, they usually recover from the last frame.

T-3
 
Got two of these bad boys in the pipe right now... 22-23 min/frame. Pretty normal PPW values. We'll see what happens and if I get more.

Whack fol the da now fold to your protein
'Round the floor your boxen shake
Bend an ear to the truth I tell ya
Lots of fun at relic's place

(okay, WAY too much drinking and Irish music this weekend)
 
Been folding these on all 20 clients for days now, no errors at all, just very very slow. Like HoosierDad said, no need to check updates as often;)

T-3, have you changed to the new core yet? Since I did that I have not had one machine freeze or early termination.

Chewy chewy chewy.....

BillR

44+ gig home farm
 
core is dated 17 mar 2004, so im pretty sure im current there. Its just that when I do something to cause a lockup (Its not the protien at fault) I get a check sum error and it starts from scratch, like its not even looking for a checkpoint like it should. This box has been stable for over a year now. I just hate losing that much time when i never lost more than one frame with the tinker core.

T-3
 
T-3,
Bummer. As far as I know, all 160-pointers have been completing on my garden boxen. I'll check the logs tomorrow. I did have one restart when I was screwing around with the Advanced options in the Graphic client, moving it down from 100%. I won't do that again!:eek:
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I've got a PIII 1.0 GHz chewing on a p859 right now.... taking about 68-70 mins pre frame.... started 3/18 around 10pm..... scheduled to finish on 3/23 around 5:15pm...... chewy little guy....
 
I've got two 859s right now, one on each of my boxen. The Barton at 2.1GHz is reporting around 24 minutes per frame. I dunno how long for my poor Pally 1900+ but it's already been chewing for some time and it's not halfway through. The Barton should be done in another....39 hours :eek:
 
just had an 859 die at frame 15, check out this log file and tell me what happened.

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neat huh

T-3
 
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This log file, and particularly the sections quoted above, suggests that your Eà+]Üj Eð]ôPSÿuàÿuÜWÿøó is not Eÿ5_fj0Pÿ¬ó?EÜPÿuWè± ‹Ã3ÿ™÷}ØƒÄ ‹È‹Eä¯Mì+Eܙ+ÂÑø+È9}ü‰M ing correctly.

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I'm sorry T-3, but that is the funniest thing I have seen in a long time.. esp. when combined with Celerators evaluation of the situaation. bummer. hope you get your týÿÿPÿØò…Àu 9]üt ÇEø dealt with.
 
T-3 buddy, gotta love that cut and paste...Lot's of style:D

Seriously tho, try deleting everything in your folding and work directorys, start over. I've had that fix things too

Luck buddy

BillR
 
My poor little 600 PIII is chewing on one now, it looks like in about 6.985 days it will be done :D

The overclocked amd at 1500 is kicking em out in 36 minutes or so, the 1100 PIII is a little over an hour each.

makes tinkers look quick :D

need the two new boxes to get here so they can chew too.
Fed Ex says they will be here the 31st and then they will fold.

mother board for box four is RMA again so I'm not sure if it will be back on line or in the died in the line of duty thread.

fold on
 
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