Vertex 32MB vs. 64MB Cache

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I was looking at gettting a 60GB vertex for my system drive. I wonder if the smaller cache of the 60GB drive is going to affect the performace much. Don't really want to spring for the 120GB model right now. Running Vista 64Bit (also hope to put one in my XP32bit machine).
 
OCZ admitted 30 and 60 GB drives will have slightly lower performance.
I believe they said it was cause of fewer NAND chips used or some thing like that... But don't quote me on that.
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The performance targets will be the 30g and the 120g, each performs better than the 60/250 because of NAND density. The 120g performs better than the 30 due to the larger cache.
 
Currently they do. It should prevent stuttering issues. The question remains if it will be eliminated altogether by this.

I'm really curious to see all drives benchmarked against eachother 30,60,120Gb But I doubt any site will to the together.
 
I haven't even seen any Vertex drives for sale, let alone speculate on their performance.
 
There's an early performance review of the Vertex here:
http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/OCZ-Technology-Vertex-Series-120GB-SSD-Review/Benchmarks.html

This is definitely an arguable point, but my personal pet peeve about the SSD industry currently is that it seems like these performance boosts we are getting now are really fixes for problems that maybe never should have happened... i.e. they are centered around improvements in the controllers that don't represent significant technological advancement, yet somehow they are an excuse to keep SSD prices high when theoretically the cost of an SSD should be more a function of the amount and speed of the actual flash memory itself.

I don't mind paying for performance increases when I look at the advancements in video cards or CPUs given the R&D that goes into them, but SSD controller chips? Well, I guess I'm not an expert on SSD controller chip engineering and pricing, so what do I know. But when was the last time a Seagate or Western Digital released a new hard drive with the same capacity that had some kind of onboard controller boost and argued that justified a 50% price increase? The closest I can think of might be the WD Green line.

I guess that's part of the price of an emerging vs. a mature technology; I just find it hard to believe the new Indilinx controller on the OCZ Vertez and 64MB of cache is that much more expensive than the crappy JMicron one, even if the JMicrons are indeed crappy.

I'm also left wondering if I couldn't match the 120GB Vertex performance with 2 x G.Skill (non-Titan) 128GBs in a RAID-0 and get twice the storage for similar or less cost (other than the overhead of having to set up the RAID-0).

Regardless, it seems like someone new comes in every day with a new line of SSDs even if they're often just the same as what's already out there... so with this amount of entries, I'd have to think they're being attracted by margin but the prices have room to fall over the next 12 months.
 
I don't think there has been a newly released HDD that was 2 or 3 times faster than the previous generation... So kinda hard to judge. While SSD technology is actually fairly old (mid-90's I think?), consumer level MLC drives aren't. Unless you really just want to play with them (which I do...) I wouldn't recommend anyone get a MLC SSD until at least 3rd or 4th generation controllers are out, and the various operating and file systems have been optimized for SSD in general. Of course, this is [H], we aren't just "anyone".
 
hasoos said:
I haven't even seen any Vertex drives for sale, let alone speculate on their performance.
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You can find them listed on amazon zipzoomfly and buy.com, but they list as out of stock. I would wait for newegg to get them in.

I figure if anyone has one, they must be here @ [H]
 
The only people who have them "in hand" right now are reviewers, but soon... yes soon
 
Argentum said:
But when was the last time a Seagate or Western Digital released a new hard drive with the same capacity that had some kind of onboard controller boost and argued that justified a 50% price increase?
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I'm not old enough to know, but probably back when hard drives were still an immature technology that continued to surprise engineers with unanticipated issues, if there ever were any.

The new controllers on the Vertex are more expensive, and not just because of the cache - but I think the other intangible cost is justified by the work OCZ has been putting into developing a solid firmware. They've been listening to their customers and responding - the OCZ SSD forums stand head-and-shoulders above other SSD retailers in terms of the level of care and support being provided. They are in-tune with the issues that consumers are having and have put a lot of time into educating people and ironing out bugs. Personally, I think that's worth supporting.
 
I agree about the forums, I wish Seagate had that level of support for their issues with .11 series drives.
 
I was hoping the Vertex drives would out perform my Intel's but those crystalmark scores arent all that great. Guess I will wait for the Vertex 2 but I have heard it will be SATA3.
 
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