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Vega Rumors

TaintedSquirrel said:
So it looks like the Q2 Vega release may have been referring to the Pro cards only, and the gaming chips will come later in Q3 or beyond. Lots of salt on Reddit today.
But despite all of this, I still find myself asking... # Where's Vega?
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They could still show something at last day June 30th, they did it with Ryzen and with Polaris.

Reddit is reddit, its a cesspool of rabid *********
 
NKD said:
Idk man. It's most likely amd is booking them and getting whatever they make. Idk Samsung has had it since 2016 or was it late 2015? It's shameful if Hynix can't get their shit together in 2017
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Just odd they are screwing up so badly as of late, I don't think its the actually manufacturing of the individual ram pieces that is a problem though, its probably the packaging of them.
 
Bahanime said:
Computex in less than 2 weeks. E3 in June too.

Let's stop pretending with certainty, like you guys can read the future.

Doom & gloom after Computex & E3 all you like though.
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LOL can not agree more!
 
razor1 said:
Just odd they are screwing up so badly as of late, I don't think its the actually manufacturing of the individual ram pieces that is a problem though, its probably the packaging of them.
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Could be and that is why it makes it so hard to believe that how they can still be screwing up lol. This thing was suppose to go to mass production in q4 no? I mean its almost 7-8 months in now. Big failure if they are still having hard time pumping them in large quantity. If Vega is delayed it is probably because of that and AMD is kinda screwed jumping on HBM2 so much. This is why I always thought they should stick with gddr memory 5x and 6 for gaming side and leave hbm2 to pro side.
 
Bahanime I agree.
What is bad is that intel and nvidia have road maps and you can bet on them being correct.
AMD is just all over the place, lots of talk but never anything informative or definite. Just talk.
Its almost like if enough people want to buy it we might come up with something.
 
razor1 said:
They could still show something at last day June 30th, they did it with Ryzen and with Polaris.

Reddit is reddit, its a cesspool of rabid *********
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I mean he's got me on ignore probably still but he still can't go back and look to see that RX480 was launched at Computex, and availability started late June.

Derp.
 
sparks said:
Bahanime I agree.
What is bad is that intel and nvidia have road maps and you can bet on them being correct.
AMD is just all over the place, lots of talk but never anything informative or definite. Just talk.
Its almost like if enough people want to buy it we might come up with something.
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Intel's roadmaps being correct?

10nm would like a talk with you. :)

It happens to everybody. Even NV not long ago with Fermi.
 
Magic Hate Ball said:
I mean he's got me on ignore probably still but he still can't go back and look to see that RX480 was launched at Computex, and availability started late June.

Derp.
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Bahanime said:
And if you go back further, Fury X was launched at Computex, availability next to nil, til a month later. Looks like its going to happen again.
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People are worried because Raja said the Frontier would be the first Vega GPU and it's launching "late June".
AMD will probably announce the RX Vega series at Computex/E3 because that's what they've always done... Availability may be a separate issue entirely.

Raja also said this on the radeon blog which is a bit vague.
if gaming is your primary reason for buying a GPU, I’d suggest waiting just a little while longer for the lower-priced, gaming-optimized Radeon RX Vega graphics card. You’ll be glad you did.
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AMD's original plan was to launch Vega in Q2. The Frontier card fulfills that goal. Things are a little bit different this time compared to past releases and a Q3+ launch is on the table, unfortunately. "Doom and gloom" notwithstanding.
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
People are worried because Raja said the Frontier would be the first Vega GPU and it's launching "late June".
AMD will probably announce the RX Vega series at Computex/E3 because that's what they've always done... Availability may be a separate issue entirely.

AMD's original plan was to launch Vega in Q2. The Frontier card fulfills that goal. Things are a little bit different this time compared to past releases.
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All true, but as long as we get some more solid info at Computex it will at least help inform buying decisions.
 
Magic Hate Ball said:
All true, but as long as we get some more solid info at Computex it will at least help inform buying decisions.
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Or we'll get nothing except Lisa Su holding up a GPU at the end of the conference (see: Fiji).

The real info comes during AMD's E3 show. And the more astute among us may have noticed that Intel, not AMD, is sponsoring the PC Gaming Show this year. My expectations for a RX Vega June launch are dwindling.
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
People are worried because Raja said the Frontier would be the first Vega GPU and it's launching "late June".
AMD will probably announce the RX Vega series at Computex/E3 because that's what they've always done... Availability may be a separate issue entirely.

Raja also said this on the radeon blog which is a bit vague.


AMD's original plan was to launch Vega in Q2. The Frontier card fulfills that goal. Things are a little bit different this time compared to past releases and a Q3+ launch is on the table, unfortunately. "Doom and gloom" notwithstanding.
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again! all made up shit! you will have your answer on computex. Too hard to wait until then?
 
KazeoHin said:
Until then.. we SPECULATE!!
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Speculation is always acceptable. Where it crosses the line is some posters seem to frame it as if it's a statement of fact, when it's just their speculation. Even worse are the drive-bys without any evidence to even back up their random speculation. I guess that's normal on tech forums though...
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
Or we'll get nothing except Lisa Su holding up a GPU at the end of the conference (see: Fiji).

The real info comes during AMD's E3 show. And the more astute among us may have noticed that Intel, not AMD, is sponsoring the PC Gaming Show this year. My expectations for a RX Vega June launch are dwindling.
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My guess:

It looks like a paper launch at either Computex or E3. Limited supply, possibly HBM2 related.

RX Vega for gamers, the liquid cooled edition, will have much higher than 1600 clocks that Vega FE has (air cooled, ~225W from leak slides on MI25), and it's going to need faster HBM2 to scale in performance. 8GB HBM2, full clocks, 512GB/s. Hence limited supply and forced paper launch.

Based on reading related info and mostly on gut.

See, perfectly fine to speculate.
 
razor1 said:
Ah I was only thinking of the 2 Gbps lol. Damn keep thinking GBP, getting confused with Forex lol.
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Or maybe AMD stole all the the 1.6Gbps memory for lower end Vega parts.
Computex in two weeks..
 
dook43 said:
Link?
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He'd be able to provide one, but WCCFTech has been editing old articles to match the facts months afterward.

Wild speculation was happening on the tabloid section of the tech news sites.

Don't believe their lies, they just want clicks!
 
Magic Hate Ball said:
He'd be able to provide one, but WCCFTech has been editing old articles to match the facts months afterward.

Wild speculation was happening on the tabloid section of the tech news sites.

Don't believe their lies, they just want clicks!
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You're specifically referring to Khalid Moammer. I have insider sources who tell me that he is, in fact, quite proficient at sucking dicks.
 
Can't wait to see how all this pans out with the official announcement, no too far away now.
 
Bahanime said:
My guess:

It looks like a paper launch at either Computex or E3. Limited supply, possibly HBM2 related.

RX Vega for gamers, the liquid cooled edition, will have much higher than 1600 clocks that Vega FE has (air cooled, ~225W from leak slides on MI25), and it's going to need faster HBM2 to scale in performance. 8GB HBM2, full clocks, 512GB/s. Hence limited supply and forced paper launch.

Based on reading related info and mostly on gut.

See, perfectly fine to speculate.
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#OverclockersDream
 
Magic Hate Ball said:
He'd be able to provide one, but WCCFTech has been editing old articles to match the facts months afterward.

Wild speculation was happening on the tabloid section of the tech news sites.

Don't believe their lies, they just want clicks!
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Nobody ever claimed one rx480 was as fast as a 1080. Complete BS. They did claim parity with 2 in crossfire.
 
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TaintedSquirrel said:
You're specifically referring to Khalid Moammer. I have insider sources who tell me that he is, in fact, quite proficient at sucking dicks.
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I have insider sources that told me with absolute certainty that his insider sources are, in fact, inside his own asshole.
 
Radeon Technology Group (RTG) is doing an AMD at Reddit today 2 to 3 PM PST.

It's probably a good time to ask questions.

 
OK, I feel confident in my choice to sell my two 1080 Tis and wait for Vega. I think it's going to be really good.
 
Archaea said:
Those adjusted for inflation charts always seem off to me.

Around the year 2000 I was in the middle of my college years, living in Kansas City working evenings at FedEx for about $11.25 per hour IIRC. I'd imagine the pay is about the same now for a package handler. I remember a fast food worker in my area, would make about $8 an hour starting. I hear it's about $9 now.

Price of gas is higher now. Price of rent is higher now, insurance is higher now, food cost is higher now, heck my water bill used to be $35 every 2 months, now it's $80 every month. Same water service, same city.

I realize my perspective is antecdotal, but it sure seems like typical living costs rose faster than wages over those 17 years. What I'm saying is put yourself in the shoes of a 18 year old with a basic job -- it seems it would have been easier to buy a $400 card in the year 2000 than it is to buy a $700 card today.
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So I asked my pizza delivery guy how much he makes from tips. Thursday Friday and Saturday about 400 500 a day. The rest of the week about 200 day.
 
cybereality said:
OK, I feel confident in my choice to sell my two 1080 Tis and wait for Vega. I think it's going to be really good.
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If you think Vega is gonna be better than a 1080 Ti, I would suggest you be prepared to be disappointed. Altrough, perhaps the resell value of the 1080Ti will start falling, in which case you did well, i think.
 
bezant said:
So I asked my pizza delivery guy how much he makes from tips. Thursday Friday and Saturday about 400 500 a day. The rest of the week about 200 day.
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lol
and that's why he's a pizza delivery guy - cause he 'don't do math'

$400-$500 on each day -- thurs, fri, and sat in tips?

He's exaggerating --- bet on it. Or selling 420 on the side.

Let's say he makes a relatively generous tip of $5 per pizza delivery destination --- at every destination. That'd mean he'd have to deliver between 80-100 places each day on Thurs, Friday, and Saturday to hit those numbers. That's not happening. Let's say the average pizza delivery is 25 minutes round trip. He gets two 15 minute breaks and so works 7.5 hours a day assuming full time. On a super busy day he might actually deliver 20 stops in 7.5 hours. 20 stops x $5 is $100 bucks in tips................
 
SighTurtle said:
If you think Vega is gonna be better than a 1080 Ti, I would suggest you be prepared to be disappointed. Altrough, perhaps the resell value of the 1080Ti will start falling, in which case you did well, i think.
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I'm not sure it will be better, but I think it will be at least as good as 1080, maybe approaching Ti level. There's also a chance it could pull ahead in DX12 or Vulkan, since AMD seems to be strong there.
 
Archaea said:
lol
and that's why he's a pizza delivery guy - cause he 'don't do math'
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Not that long ago I tried to give a pizza delivery guy a $15 tip (because I was in a generous mood) and he refused. He said it was "excessive" and ended up with $5. Probably not that bright, I sure as hell would never refuse someone trying to give me free money, lol.
 
cybereality said:
Not that long ago I tried to give a pizza delivery guy a $15 tip (because I was in a generous mood) and he refused. He said it was "excessive" and ended up with $5. Probably not that bright, I sure as hell would never refuse someone trying to give me free money, lol.
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what kinda idiot is he....
 
dook43 said:
Nobody ever claimed one rx480 was as fast as a 1080. Complete BS. They did claim parity with 2 in crossfire.
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Thats incorrect. AMD shown 2 RX 480 in crossfire beating a GTX 1080 in Ashes of Singularity with 51% GPU usage, which led many to believe 1 RX 480 is as fast as 1 GTX 1080 in special cases.
 
Not sure where the pizza conversation came in, but I used to be a delivery guy! On Friday and Saturday nights I'd take about 20-25 deliveries and make around 100 bucks in tips. I could make 200 bucks total by getting a generous tip or two, adding in my wage and delivery charge with my tips. Ahhh... Those were the days, simpler times.
 
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