Useful or Not? (water cooled question)

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Showtimextx

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Building new System.
cosmos 1000 Case
I would like to do the following and wanted to know if the small second rad is a stupid idea or if it would be beneficial.


Res -> Pump - > Rad (Triple 120) -> CPU -> VGA -> Rad (Single 120) -> Mosfet -> Chipset

My thinking behind this is that at least the liquid would cool slightly before going over the mosfet and chipset. I could also go through the Mosefet and chipset first and then cool it then through CPU and VGA although everyone says I should go through CPU First as you want that the coolest.

Please let me know your thoughts/suggestions.

PS: I would be putting a triple in the roof of the cosmos 1000 and a single at the back.
 
The only thing I could see it effect would be the flow. However most good pumps should be able to cope with it. If you are building a low flow system I'd avoid 2 rads though. If you want to run 2 rads you are putting them in the correct place in the loop, you're hitting the 2 largest heat producing items after the larger rad and giving it a chance to cool slightly before the rest of the loop with the second rad.

The only way to really know for sure is to test with and without, but that's a lot of hassle. I'm not sure how much of a benefit it will actually provide, but it really can't hurt.
 
I'm going to use the Danger Den DD12V-D5 Pump with the fixed speed (which is max).
What do you think. I wanted a quiet pump with good power.
 
I forgot to mention Ram in this layout

Res -> Pump - > Rad (Triple 120) -> CPU -> VGA -> Rad (Single 120) -> Ram - >Mosfet -> Chipset

Would you guys suggest changing the order of the Ram, mosfet and chipset? Which of these would get the hottest in an oc system? which is the coolest?
 
at some point its going to be worth it to just get another pump and make 2 loops. thats a lot of resistance for one pump to move around, you could put two pumps in series, but at some point it makes sense to make two loops-- put the CPU at the front of one loop, and the GPU then ram at the front of another, then prioritize which other things actually need to stay cool. not everything is engineered for the same running temps.

at some point you just end up either using air to cool stuff, or completely submerging your case in that 3M fluorinated liquid stuff-- gotta be a bit practical some time or another.
 
why not do Y split before the ram so that you have less resistance. you can parallel you ram chips and parallel the moftset and chipset.
 
i agree on the 2nd loop more though.. you could possible run a small hosed loop with small pump to cool the chipset, ram and mosfet
 
Alright, two loops...humm...
I might have to get back to this thread in a couple days I need to re work out some of the stuff then.
 
Watercooling RAM /really/ isn't necessary. In truth, even the Dominator Fan type setups are overkill if you have good case airflow... which you should always have, even if watercooling.
 
Yea, I agree but Overkill sometimes looks good :D

So do you guys thing that one Danger den pump won't be enough to pump through the whole system? I just don't know if I have room for another pump in my setup. plus then i would have to add another res.
 
one 655/d5 will be plenty to do that loop.

the other problem you might have with cooling your ram is that alot of the blocks are made out of aluminum so they might be able to corrode. i have never gotten a solid answer on that.
 
Headpunter: I completely forgot to check if the ram block was made out of aluminum, I was going to order the Koolance Ram -35 It does say right on their website that it is made out of aluminum.

I am looking to over clock the ram as much as possible to get the most out of the processor.

So far this is what I have ordered for my water cooling side.
Danger Den 5 1/4" Bay Res
DD12V-D5 Pump Fixed Speed
Swiftech MCR320 Quiet Power Triple 120MM
Swiftech MCR120 Quiet Power Single 120MM
Feser One Fluid UV Black NON-CONDUCTIVE Water Replacement
^----- Although I just read someplace that I should use this...any comments?


The goal of this new rig is a pure oc'ed gaming rig. I have ordered a EVGA 680i as my main board and have yet to order any other components because I'm still researching them. I'm looking to run vista x64 ultimate. The second part of this goal is to keep the noise levels down. This is the reason for the cosmos 1000 case and also the reason I was looking to water cool the ram.

This is the following items I was going to purchase, please let me know your thoughts.
Koolance RAM-35 Single Memory Liquid Cooler (No Fittings) <-----Removed from my list.
Danger Den G 1/4" High Flow Thread Barb - 1/2" ID
Koolance 1/2" (13mm) ID G1/4 Threaded Angled Nozzles Pair (NZL-L13KG)
Swiftech Apogee GTX CU Limited Edition Universal CPU Waterblock
Danger Den MPC-680i Liquid Cooling nVidia 680i
Ek nForce 680i Mosfet BlockS Set
 
OCing RAM above a 1:1 ratio with FSB speed on Intel platforms gets you zero performance gain. Zero.

Also, I have an EK and a DangerDen 680i NB block I'll sell cheap (barely used). Send me a PM.
 
silent-circuit: Ah, see I have much to learn.

As most things I can think of have already been done once somewhere by someone, i've been trying to google a 680i OC guide. I still hope to find one.

PS: I sent you a pm.
 
Ok,

Well I do appreciate all these tips/suggestions.
I guess my setup will be something like this, all 1/2" fittings with 7/16" tubing.

Res -> Pump - > Rad (Triple 120) -> CPU -> VGA -> Rad (Single 120) -> Mosfet -> Chipset

5 1/4" Bay Res -> D5 -> MCR320 -> Swiftech Apogee GTX -> VGA? -> MCR120 -> Ek 680i -> MPC-680i

Still have not decided on the Video Card (Budget reasons) so I will have to wait on that.

Please continue to provide feedback on this. I continue to learn from all you experts out there.
 
I usually run res just before the pump inlet, then blocks after the pump outlet, then rad after the blocks, but it really /doesn't/ matter. In my experience putting the res/t-line before the pump inlet makes filling easier, but other than that, there's no appreciable difference in performance.
 
Alright good to know

What about the difference between running SLI in parallel vs serial setup.
I'm looking at getting the Swiftech stealth's
 
Showtimextx said:
Alright good to know

What about the difference between running SLI in parallel vs serial setup.
I'm looking at getting the Swiftech stealth's
Click to expand...

Parallel is goofy looking, serial isn't. :D;) Yes, you'll get less restriction and more flow from a parallel system, and the cards will run ~the same temp instead of 3-8C (from what I've seen) different, but then you have to deal with Y splitters. I don't really like Y splitters; just more stuff to leak.
 
Ok good to hear I didn't want to hear that parallel was better.


Mosfet coolers? Should I even buy those? there expensive do i need them? I'm going to overclock the 680i evga as much as possible....thoughts?
 
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