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US Students Not So Worldly Wise

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I hate to say it but it is pretty embarrassing that students in the U.S. think Beethoven is a dog and Michelangelo is a computer virus. Hey, a least they are good at video games and texting. ;)

Most young Americans entering university this year can't write in cursive, think email is too slow, that Beethoven's a dog and Michelangelo a computer virus, according to an annual list compiled by two academics at a US college. To students who will get their bachelor's degrees in 2014, Czechoslovakia has never existed, Fergie is a pop singer, not a duchess.
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Yep thats our future, Hopefully skynet can take this world over and we won't have to worry about those scarecrows running this country when I 70yrs old.
 
as part of this group, i feel ashamed......hell i used to play plenty of Beethoven on the Piano.....and like some of Michelangelo's work....this is a pretty sad stat...

I do have an "excuse" for not doing cursive.....hand writing below the 10th percentile(so i get fun laptops/tablets for notes since 7th grade)
 
Nokia said:
Yep that's our future, Hopefully Skynet can take this world over and we won't have to worry about those scarecrows running this country when I turn 70 years old.
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Irony, wot? ;)
 
Um... Well... Beethoven was a dog and Michelangelo is a virus.
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This hits a lot of the problems our country has with education. We have many of the absolute best universities in the world here in the USA. Yet, for a first world country, we have appallingly poor primary education. Our kids can barely get into our universities.
 
W.Feather said:
I do have an "excuse" for not doing cursive.....hand writing below the 10th percentile(so i get fun laptops/tablets for notes since 7th grade)
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Cursive is practically worthless anyway. Aside from your signature, when is it even used? I know as soon as it wasn't mandatory for me to write everything in cursive in school - after 6th grade, I think - I stopped and never looked back.
 
hmmm... I wouldn't call my writing cursive, but it looks like it. My writing doesn't have all the fancy curves found in cursive that was taught to us in grade school. I'd say many letters bare resemblance though because I fail to pick up my pen/pencil. My 's' especially is starting to look more and more like a cursive 's' w/o even thinking about it.
 
My signature is basically a scribble anyway - I haven't used cursive since grade school, and don't see a point. Most of the time when I can't read someone's handwriting (which is a lot of the time), it's in cursive... so what does that say?
 
Sherk said:
My signature is basically a scribble anyway - I haven't used cursive since grade school, and don't see a point. Most of the time when I can't read someone's handwriting (which is a lot of the time), it's in cursive... so what does that say?
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That you can't read cursive? I'm in my early-mid 20's, and can read cursive, even bad cursive wth some dificulty just fine
 
When people look for ignorance, they will find it. This is not unique to the US. See the video recently about people in Australia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU2dZz18P0c

30% of people asked could not answer how long it takes for the Earth to orbit the Sun.

Also, email *is* slow (in that it is not an instant communication method, and prone to delivery problems) and cursive *is* pointless.

I do feel sorry for people that cannot type. Now that is a skill that is useful.
 
I don't think you have to worry about writing cursive when you are never tought how to do it. I am originally from india, we had a whole class period for half a year learning how to write cursive on three lines. I came to America and no one cared lol. I had already done it and learned it, but I was kinda happy that the teacher didn't beat me up for not writing cursive.

I actually don't believe that if you don't know little things that you are dumb, absolutely wrong. You might not have general knowledge about stuff because you just didn't grow up around those things. Someone could be a genious and not know how to solve a simple quadratic equation. I have seen those people.
 
Yeah I haven't written cursive since grade school. Screw that crap, screw printing too. So funny in school writing was never a prob, but now my hand gets tired after a page. But I'll type up a storm any day. Screw that old fashioned slow crap.
 
This is because our unversities are great but our hippie our schools are sit mixed with shit, places where you don't learn but our instead flung into by shitty parents who hate parenting.
 
Zellio2010 said:
This is because our unversities are great but our hippie our schools are sit mixed with shit, places where you don't learn but our instead flung into by shitty parents who hate parenting.
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lol. I hate parents who jump down a teachers throat when their baby goes crying down to them. It is pretty pathetic, my mom would tell my teacher that she could fricking spank me if she needed too, I was like WTF, lol. I think the students have too much room and relaxed at shcool, they need to have just the right amount of pressure on them from parents and teachers alike.

Thats why I like my sister in law, she simply ignores when my nephew comes home complaining about school and teachers lol. Instead he gets to do extra homework if he complains so he stopped complaining now.
 
of the more important thing that should be taught in primary schools the most useful is common sense, which sadly isn't a subject. though it's normally taught by parents or learned through experience, there are so many ppl I pass by on the street every day that apparently have none, and this is the most disappointing thing I find in society today (and yesterday).
 
I'm not American, so this isn't some American defending America, but this article and the issue presented is more along the lines of presenting the differences in cultural awareness then wisdom. I mean the example of say John McEnroe, would it be fair to ask people from Europe who John Madden is? Then claim they are unwise cause they said some guy who makes handegg ball video games?
 
limitedaccess said:
I'm not American, so this isn't some American defending America, but this article and the issue presented is more along the lines of presenting the differences in cultural awareness then wisdom. I mean the example of say John McEnroe, would it be fair to ask people from Europe who John Madden is? Then claim they are unwise cause they said some guy who makes handegg ball video games?
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woah, woah, woah...

WTF?! :p
 
86 5.0L said:
woah, woah, woah...

WTF?! :p
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I was being a bit ridiculous to hammer home my point but here goes :p -

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Dude! Michelangelo is a ninja turtle. :)

OK, myth bless USA, we need all the fairytale help we can get!
 
lol...wrist watch? Seriously? Taking out a cell phone from your pocket (hmm...sounds like a pocket watch) is more convenient than looking at your wrist quickly?
 
A lot of the stuff is current events or pop culture, it reminds me of playing old versions of Trivial Pursuit that came out when I was 5. You are not likely to know the answers unless your parents talked about it or you have a fascination with old TV shows.

I mean all of the world history and world conflicts should ring a bell to these kids, that part is just sad.
 
Football ain't played with a round ball period! Anyway, about changing perspectives this reminds me of a conversation about music, I had about ten years ago with a twenty-something. He was almost floored when I started talking about Kenny Rogers being a hippie and fronting a rock band (The 1st. Edition). He almost crapped his pants when I told him how Kenny had hair down pass his shoulders, headband, love beads, and psychedelic clothes.
 
Sad, but so true.............I try to get my son to read and write, but these kids, gaming and cartoons, is all they know!
 
The world has changed drastically in a very short time and the effects are showing in youth.

The average 16 year old has (or can get) instant access to the current combined knowledge of the 1st world in their pocket. Compare that to 20 years ago when everything you knew was told to you by someone that hadn't been in school for a few decades or something you read in some text book that was most likely years out of date.

Thats quite the leap in information accessibility and IMO the world was not prepared for it. It has removed the need for young people to become wise. People no longer need (or feel the need at the least) to know things, just how to quickly find the answer.

While this sounds great to many atm, as people can argue old school knowledge of things may no longer be relevant, but it has long term repercussions.

If youth today are losing the desire to be wise and their brains are being rewired to quickly seek and filter information not store it, the bubble may burst.

We are learning new information at an alarming rate and the whole world can instantly know about it. But most of this is research being done of a generation brought up in the old way of thinking. When todays children reach their 30s+, IMO new information may begin to slow down. I think people not knowing the world's most famous composer is just the tip of a slowly approaching iceberg.
 
gamz247 said:
Cursive is practically worthless anyway. Aside from your signature, when is it even used? I know as soon as it wasn't mandatory for me to write everything in cursive in school - after 6th grade, I think - I stopped and never looked back.
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I liked cursive and I even learned some calligraphy when I was younger. Cursive is still a great way to write checks, but that is not that common now anyways. I guess I am unique for my age group as I was born in the 1980's. The education system here in the US really needs to improve, and maybe consider teaching a better job then it currently is. Grammar is one of my worst subjects, but I am an Electrical Engineer so it all works out.
 
I do agree that a good percentage of Americans are crap at most "worldy knowledge" such as current events in other countries, ect. but we are not FULLY to blame. We broadcast our national events (hammer them into other countries skulls), but while doing that we block out any information about other nations. To tell you the truth who gives a f* about who are some lesser known people from other countries in the past or so on. Common sense, basic math should be more important. Cursive is pointless becuase most people type almost everything instead of hand-write.

Another point is most surveys will be biased in the fact that they were created to "show the truth" on a topic. If everything was equal why the hell would you make the survey. People love saying that Americans are stupid but did you ever see the videos made in other countries of "average (insert country here)" making stupid mistakes about information.
 
You know, the hatred for cursive in this thread actually astounds me. I have always found it far easier and faster to write in cursive then print. All these years I have accused youth of being lazy, but this sort of flies in the face of that. :confused:

That said, it got nailed on the head earlier. Our universities are indeed very good, but our primary schools are just atrocious. There is far too much focus on passing tests, and not enough focus on learning.
 
xSystemFailurex said:
I gotta say, cursive and handwriting in general are easily the most useless things kids can learn in school.
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Got to agree with you here. But reading, writing (typing) and spelling are very important.

Studies like these give the impression that the youth is a bunch of uneducated fools. I would argue that it is not the students, but their craptastic teachers that are the real morons. Teaching is a noble profession, but there are no standards anymore.
 
Dekoth-E- said:
You know, the hatred for cursive in this thread actually astounds me. I have always found it far easier and faster to write in cursive then print. All these years I have accused youth of being lazy, but this sort of flies in the face of that. :confused:

That said, it got nailed on the head earlier. Our universities are indeed very good, but our primary schools are just atrocious. There is far too much focus on passing tests, and not enough focus on learning.
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Cursive is mostly useless. I agree with the hatred; it serves no purpose.

Other than that, I think kids these days are smart, just not very wise. Education has always been what you make of it, some are there for the degree alone, some like to learn.

P.S. THE END IS NEAR, GET OFF MAH LAWN
 
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