Upgrading My Computer

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terrybogard21

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1) What will you be doing with this PC? Gaming? Photoshop? Web browsing?
Gaming COD5 & WoW / Some Photoshop / I do however run 5 x WoW accounts at once (multiboxer)
2) What's your budget? Are tax and shipping included?
$1000-1500 max w/ NO Tax living in OR
3) Where do you live?
Oregon
4) What exact parts do you need for that budget?
CPU/ Would Like a New Video card 4850/260(216) or higher setup; in single card though.
5) If reusing any parts, what parts will you be reusing?
Also my motherboard if possible, Abit has my heart (goodbye guys) :(
6) Will you be overclocking?
Yes
7) What size monitor do you have or plan to have?
Samsung T260HD
8) When do you plan on building/buying the PC?
As Soon As Build is Finished
9) What features do you need in a motherboard?
Basics.

I was also considering i7, but at the moment with just playing WoW & wanting to try out COD5, I don't think I should even bother with it right now. Wait until a refresh later in the year. I really want a new video card if anything overall. Also, please keep in mind what I'm doing now versus the budget, nothing wrong with saving money for another rainy day.

Thanks in advance.
 
I have a few more questions for you....

Which specific motherboard are you reusing?

How old is your OCZ 700W PSU?

Have you looked at some of the other $1000-$1500 build threads that have been posted recently?

Do you have an unused OS license that you could use for this build? (A retail license would work, but the OEM license would have to have never been used on another machine.)

Once built, how long do you plan to keep this machine for?
 
tiraides said:
I have a few more questions for you....

Which specific motherboard are you reusing?

How old is your OCZ 700W PSU?
It was early 08''

Have you looked at some of the other $1000-$1500 build threads that have been posted recently?
Yeah, but they don't seem concrete in what exactly is offered.

Do you have an unused OS license that you could use for this build? (A retail license would work, but the OEM license would have to have never been used on another machine.) I have retail Vista x64 Ultimate

Once built, how long do you plan to keep this machine for?
This build would last until mid-late 09' just until the refresh of i7 goes through.
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Overall, I guess I should go with Q6600, maybe a 280GTX, or should I just stick with a (216) 260? Also, is it any worth to go from my Redline ram to corsair or save that & use it for a new PSU if needed?
 
Redline is fucking awesome ram, if you're gonna change it you're looking at D9s. GTX260 will run COD5 fine, heck it'll run it better than fine. Since you're on the topic of "saving money", wouldn't just keeping the GTS make more sense? I mean, if you played COD4 and it didn't bottleneck then that's pretty much what you're gonna see with COD5.
 
Here is what I would do to make your build slam dude with the T260HD 26” display. It won’t cost you no $1,000 also.

I would adjust these:

CPU/MOBO (Combo Deal) - Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550(2.83ghz) + Asus P5Q Pro mobo ($15 MIR) both for $400
Video Card - XFX Geforce GTX 260(216 stream processor) Black edition for $300 w/free shipping This should rival a reference Geforce GTX 280 video card.

Note: Unless you plan to O/C the GTX 260 video card yourself, this XFX Black edition rocks. It’s going to smash your 8800GTS 512 video card. See why.

PSU - COOLER MASTER Real Power Pro 650 for $80 ($30 MIR) w/free shipping
Unsure if this Coolermaster PSU is any good? It is! See why.

Total: $780. Reuse your Case, RAM and other components. The rest, sell them and make some profit back.

Boom! Kick ass upgrade. Enjoy.
 
It must be me, I'm trying my hardest to talk myself out of getting the Corsair 1000HX PSU over the 750TX. I for some reason want 1K (I guess show to my roommates) & love the black & blue. Black is my favorite color. I'm gonna run with the regular eVGA 260(216), WoW shouldn't require more at all. That mobo/cpu combo is tasty...parting with my Abit IP35-Pro will be hard.
 
Really completely stupid to put a 1kw PSU into your system with 1 card but ok... e-peen over everything I guess, though I don't know who brags about a big PSU around here.
 
My thoughts exactly. First time I heard someone wanting a 1kw PS for bragging rights.

lowteckh said:
Really completely stupid to put a 1kw PSU into your system with 1 card but ok... e-peen over everything I guess, though I don't know who brags about a big PSU around here.
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HardwareGuru said:
My thoughts exactly. First time I heard someone wanting a 1kw PS for bragging rights.
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I guess I shouldve explained that I would be using the PSU in a Future i7 build wants the refresh of the cpu's happens. At which point I plan on running dual gpu's & about 4 HD's. Thanks for the advice though.
 
lowteckh said:
^- Which won't even remotely touch 1kw.
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I'll be ordering the 750TX with the 9550 C2Q on monday. Would I lose any huge gains by sticking with my 8800GTS? I know games are gpu bound more then cpu. Shouldn't have any bottleneck issues you think?

Feels just weird having a nice psu, ram, & cpu, & then a old GEN video card @ 1920 x 1200. Seems like it be ok. I haven't really benched the card under vantage yet with the rez at 1920 x 1200
 
Benchmarks mean jackshit. Seems you live in WoW, which multiboxer doesn't, and its shitty game engine is what's going to be bottlenecking any system. You said you wanted to save money so that's your call to make. Now or later, if you're happy now then don't buy. If the e-peen needs buffing, buy now. You only threw 2 games (COD5 +WoW) into the equation so that's what I'm running on for suggestions.

http://guru3d.com/article/call-of-duty-world-at-war-vga-graphics-performance-test/6
1920, GTS = 37fps, GTX260 216sp = 45fps.

(and I'm not saying epeening is bad, hell I only play WC3)
 
Yeah after looking up a couple other benches, it seems I would be spending $240 for like 7-9 frames. Not a bad idea to buy for just today, & save a little for tommorrow. I wish I could live in WoW, then again having x4 of everything but 3 classes does seem abit much. 750TX & 9550C2Q it is then. Thanks everyone
 
HardwareGuru said:
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PSU - COOLER MASTER Real Power Pro 650 for $80 ($30 MIR) w/free shipping
Unsure if this Coolermaster PSU is any good? It is! See why. ...
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You're kidding, right? That review doesn't use automated test equipment, nor do they hook the thing up to an o-scope for some ripple measurements. There's not even an autopsy report. What kind of PSU review is that?!?!?

I'm not judging the PSU, just the review you tried to convince me with. :p Generally speaking, the Real Power Pro's are usually good. Got any better reviews for that model?
 
No need. Good already. Fine. I'll hook up my scope meter and put a load on that PSU. Damn, I gotta buy that PSU and do a review of my own.
 
I'm about to place the order, was just wondering if I should take advangtage of the combo deal of the Q9550 & get the ASUS mobo, or save the $80.00 & use it towards my heatsink. I currently am using the Abit IP35-Pro in Great Condition.

The ASUS board is a P5Q-pro btw.
 
enginurd said:
Got a list of what you're ordering?
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Q9550
Corsair 750TX PSU
On the fence about my 8800GTS (G92). Might wait, but I may just coin toss it & get the 260(216) & sell the 8800GTS for like $80.00

Not sure, I have a Abit IP35-Pro, but for 80.00 I can get teh ASUS P5Q-Pro, never had one, always bought Abit, but you know they went under :( Should I do the combo deal or save the $80.00 & get like a Tuniq or Thermalright HS?

Edit: All parts coming from Newegg.com
 
I would get the Asus P5Q Pro + Q9550 Quad combo for $400 as oppose to just getting the Q9550 for $320. I would just sell the Abit IP 35 Pro mobo. The P35 chipset has the older PCI 1.1 interface as oppose to the P45 chipset on the Asus mobo. Your EVGA 8800GTS (G92) supports PCI 2.0. There is not much a dramatic performance boost from PCI 1.1 to PCI 2.0 but, hey if you can take advantage of the PCI 2.0 interface and your current video card supports PCI 2.0, then might as well. Just adds a little more boost to maximizing your 8800GTS video card even further by upgrading to a Q9550 Quad cpu and getting a P45 chipset mobo with 2.0 interface. Besides, most of the PCI-E video cards out now are all supporting PCI 2.0 interface. I don't see much of a deal with a Q9550 for $320 alone when a Core i7 920 is at $300. But, the Q9550 + Asus P5Q Pro for $400 is more of a deal considering that the Asus P5Q Pro is at $115 upfront and the Q9550 is at $320 which is $435 if bought separately. So, in that $400 combo deal, it's like the Asus P5Q Pro mobo is only $85. and the Q9550 cpu at $320. Or, if you look at it this way, the Q9550 cpu is only $285 plus the Asus mobo for $115.
 
What I don't get is the Q9550 part. You're leaning on overclocking already so a Q6600 is enough.
 
lowteckh said:
What I don't get is the Q9550 part. You're leaning on overclocking already so a Q6600 is enough.
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I'm not new to OC'ing in general. I've been playing around with my E4300 for months. I just want to take advantage of the great deal of getting the Q9550. Q6600 Is a great CPU, I just want to try one step above that since I have the means to do so.

I use to OC on the AMD side, before coming to Intel. Q9550 meets my needs & I can have fun for the next 6-8weeks finding a great OC spot for it. I'm set on the CPU, so please don't try & change my mind it hurts enough already :eek:

sidenote: The program I use lets me set each core to each window of WoW, so it wasn't hard deciding overall I guess what CPU in the end to get.
 
I didn't say anything about your o/cing experience, if you have the "means to do so" then just buy everything (your GPU, your mobo, your HS, blah blahblah) already. First you're on the fence about money and how it equates to performance to price (88GTS vs. GTX260), now you're all "i have the money for a q9550" even though real world performance vs a q66 isn't going change much.
 
The Q6600 would be more than enough for your needs, and it's also a bit easier to overclock. The Q6600 is better at a price/performance standpoint than the Q9550. The only things you "need" to upgrade are the processor and the power supply -- and get the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 (with either its retention bracket or the Thermalright/"generic" Socket 775 bolt-thru kit) as well -- and you don't really need to spend a lot of money on those things.
 
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