upgrading cpu's and memory?????????

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hey.. years ago back in the pc100 days.. I could tell you the best of anything.. now there is soooo much crap out there...

guess my first question is
which has more benefit?
p4 2.8 to p4 3.2
or
pc2100 mem to pc3200 mem??


here is what I have and what I want to do...


what I have
pc 1
machspeed xcaliber mb
p4 2.8ht cpu
2x512mb pc2100 memory

pc2
soyo mb
p4 2.8 non ht cpu (or mb is non ht)
3x312mb pc2100 memory

now I want to upgrade the memory and cpu in both.. they will both do pc3200 memory and 3.2ghz cpu's...

my question... there are different 3.2ghz cpu's..
hyperthread and non hyperthread and dual core
both mb's are socket 478
I want to know
Do they make a dual core socket 478?

memory...
ok so I have pc2100 and can do pc3200... which pc3200 do I need? there is low density, high density, registered, non registered
this makes my head hurt...
both mb's have only 3 slots....


here is my machspeed mb
X-Caliber PT800DBP ATX Socket 478
CPU Support: Intel, Socket 478, Pentium 4 Up To 3.20 GHz
Bus Speed: 400/ 533/ 800MHZ
Expansion Slots: 1-8X AGP, 5 PCI
Max Memory: 3 DDR - 12 GB
Chipset: VIA PT800
IDE Controller: Supports ULTRA ATA 133, SATA
Additional Features: ATX Formfactor, Supports 8X AGP, Supports DDR400 Max 12GB, Supports ATA133, Supports Serial ATA, Supports 6 Channel Audio, USB 2.0 Support, On-board LAN

thanks yall....
 
I do not think there will be a huge difference in both. I would say save your money, and get a Conroe setup when you can. Then sell off one of your systems. What do you do with your computers, game, general stuff, etc. Also do you plan to overclock?
 
No, they don't make dual core CPUs for s478. They don't even make s478 CPUs anymore (well, the kind that fit your mb anyhow).

DDR prices have shot up due to the steady demand yet low supply. Most memory makers have stopped producing DDR modules in favor of DDR2, since now both AMD and Intel are using DDR2 in their latest architecture. Therefore, it wouldn't be a good idea to upgrade your RAM right now, since you won't see much performance gains from such an upgrade (since you already have ~1gb in both systems).

Just in case you don't want to take our advice, you'll need PC3200 DDR400 low density (for best compatibility) non-registered unbuffered RAM. Upgrading would probably cost ~$100 per gig. The best price for 1GB kits was $50 - a few months ago. Now they cost the same as higher speed DDR2 kits. If you upgrade both, that'll be $200 just for the RAM. Since you also want to upgrade the CPU, thats at least another $100 per CPU. Thats $400. I'd take that $400, sell one of the systems on ebay or fs/ft, and build a newer, up-to-date PC.

What's your budget for an upgrade? What will you be doing with the system? Do you really need 2 seperate systems? Give us some numbers to work with and tell us your needs, and we'll show you what can be done.
 
darktiger said:
I do not think there will be a huge difference in both. I would say save your money, and get a Conroe setup when you can. Then sell off one of your systems. What do you do with your computers, game, general stuff, etc. Also do you plan to overclock?

since no real difference then not worth doing.. I dont peg the machines but thought I could get them running a bit better....

overclock = no
games = no
general stuff = yes


enginurd said:
What's your budget for an upgrade? What will you be doing with the system? Do you really need 2 seperate systems? Give us some numbers to work with and tell us your needs, and we'll show you what can be done.

thanks for your reply...

my budget on the upgrade is next to none... just had a few medical bills come in...
I had a tonsilectomy, uvula plastique (punchin bag gone) and soft pallet removal (extra meat cutout)

my wife had our second son

so thank god for insurance.. but 20% is still close to $7k what I have to pay... let alone figure out where im going to get it from...

it isnt that I NEED to upgrade.. figured id do it if it wasnt too much.... 1 pc is in the garage... used for Beyond TV (record tv), web browsing, home automation and other misc stuff... doesnt need to be a power house...
second is the office pc which is used by my wife for college and bills...

I do not really game on the computers as I have a xbox360....
Do I need 2 systems? that is down..
I have 1 in garage, 1 in kitchen, 1 in basement plus a server.. that is only 4.. I had 12 pc's and 3 servers... heck I just moved off of piii 450's with 384mb ram just this year!!!!!!
guess ill just stick with what we have for now...... input greatly appreciated...
Jeff
 
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