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[xDiVolatilX]

I wants a 4k 32" version!

Instead of waiting an option is to get an monitor arm and physically move it closer to your eye balls, lol. I mean it works. I want a 40" 4k 360hz monitor but it doesn't exist and will be a pretty long while till it does. So monitor arm saves the day

 

[Sycraft]

Instead of waiting an option is to get an monitor arm and physically move it closer to your eye balls, lol. I mean it works. I want a 40" 4k 360hz monitor but it doesn't exist and will be a pretty long while till it does. So monitor arm saves the day

I'll just stick with my OLED for now, and I can always steal my PG32UQX back from my GF. I suppose I could get some even closer computer glasses and move the monitor closer... but I'd rather just wait for a 32" version. It also isn't like I can really complain, I mean I have two nice displays to choose from already. I do like my PG32UCDP, I just miss the brightness of a MiniLED, depending on the game. For some it doesn't matter. Replaying Cyberpunk and it makes me miss the MiniLED during the day. At night I'd say the OLED generally looks better. The highlights aren't as bright but the lack of bloom makes everything overall sharper and better. However during the day, I get ABL happening and it just doesn't get bright and sunny like it did last time.

 

[xDiVolatilX]

I'll just stick with my OLED for now, and I can always steal my PG32UQX back from my GF. I suppose I could get some even closer computer glasses and move the monitor closer... but I'd rather just wait for a 32" version. It also isn't like I can really complain, I mean I have two nice displays to choose from already. I do like my PG32UCDP, I just miss the brightness of a MiniLED, depending on the game. For some it doesn't matter. Replaying Cyberpunk and it makes me miss the MiniLED during the day. At night I'd say the OLED generally looks better. The highlights aren't as bright but the lack of bloom makes everything overall sharper and better. However during the day, I get ABL happening and it just doesn't get bright and sunny like it did last time.

These are exactly the 2 reasons why I could never go with OLED. The ABL and the low max brightness. I like to play at all hours of the day afternoon or evening and even mornings on the weekends and do not want to be forced into a dark room. I'll completely skip oleds altogether with the advancements in mini led and RGB led and micro rgb lol
So yeah that MSI 271KRAW16 is 2300 fald zone hdr 1400 nitt 330hz 1440p is looking mighty tasty rn lol.

 

[Sycraft]

These are exactly the 2 reasons why I could never go with OLED. The ABL and the low max brightness.

It's a tradeoff for sure. For SDR, it is fine with me as I don't game in a bright room. Even with the light on I can turn it up to a level that I am fine with and in my normal fairly dim room, 115 nits is my preference. So SDR content looks great on an OLED. HDR, that's where it is a harder tradeoff. The lack of blooming and I guess you'd call it "micro contrast" is really nice. If you have a low APL scene, particularly a quite dark scene with bright highlights it really does look great and it is a noticeable improvement over a 1152 zone MiniLED. However it just can't hit as hard. That's noticable everywhere in a game that makes use of really bright highlights but like I said, high (or really medium) APL scenes particularly. In Cyberpunk with the Nova LUT 3 mod daytime is very bright and brilliant. Still not eye searing, maybe only 150-180nits APL... but that's enough with the highlights, you get ABL happening. It just can't handle it.

There's also the motion clarity and refresh rate that is nice for OLED. 240Hz vs 120Hz isn't a massive step up, but it is a step up and is a nice one. With frame gen, I can enjoy it in most games too. Again in Cyberpunk flipping on 3x MFG gives performance in the 150-220fps range which looks really smooth and feels quite good. The fast element response times start to shine at high refresh rates too, it looks very clean and you see way less blur when you track moving objects with your eyes. That said there is a small downside with things that are not high refresh. The rather blur heavy PG32UQX kinda smoothed over low FPS where it starts to look really stuttery on OLED.

Ultimately if someone delivers a good 32" MiniLED, I'll probably get that and switch back. While the newer OLED panels are a little brighter, it isn't enough to interest me and really bright HDR highlights are just amazing.

I like to play at all hours of the day afternoon or evening and even mornings on the weekends and do not want to be forced into a dark room.

I should add when I was talking about day and night, I meant in game nor IRL. I keep the light pretty well controlled so when I game makes little difference. In Cyberpunk, particularly with Nova LUT 3 and RenoDX, nighttime is dark with high contrast neon lights all around, daytime is very bright and sunny. It is in game daytime where the panel has issues. It still displays fine, but if I get a bunch of bright sky on the screen, ABL kicks in.

Even with a MiniLED I like to keep a dim, light controlled room not only because I find that comfortable, but that's what HDR is graded for. Dolby specifies a reference environment of 5 nits (about 15 lux) or less for HDR grading. Now obviously many (all?) games aren't graded in a reference environment, but I still try to stick around that intent as that is what HDR content should be designed around.

 

[Armenius]

I'd consider staying away from OLED then. I mean I don't know that it would have a problem in 10 years, it might work fine... but I'm not confident that it will. Burn-in is not a solved issue with them.

For me, the biggest difference in looks has been HDR. I *LOVE* HDR gaming. The brightness (particularly with a MiniLED) and contrast is so impactful. It is the thing I'd most encourage people to upgrade for. Of course, that depends on the games you play if they support them, and some people don't care about HDR even after they see it, somehow.

As for performance... you are on a 3070Ti, you can't drive higher refresh rate monitors at high frame rates. Unless you play really old games, you aren't going to push over 144Hz much realistically so I wouldn't worry about it. Really for the 240Hz+ stuff you need frame gen, preferably multi-frame gen. It just gets hard to push those kind of refresh rates natively, so to use them you need hardware that'll do FG.

If you want to stick at 27" 2.5k then the only reason I'd look at a new monitor is for HDR, in which case I'd recommend MiniLED since you don't upgrade often, or for more clarity, in which case the Gsync Pulsar ones are what you want. Higher FPS isn't a thing you are going to get with your current GPU so it isn't worth spending money on, likewise I'd hold off on OLED because of possible burn in issues.

Really, it might be best to just save your money if you don't have a specific need. Maybe look at a new monitor once you've upgraded your computer. If what you have now works, there's no need to rush and replace it. Monitors can last a long time.

My C8 is 8 years old and has no issues.

Not every game is made on UE5.

 

[Advil]

Burn in isn't what is going to take my screen out, it's the dead pixels along the edges of the screen creeping in. Oxidation creeping in from failing sealing along the edges is what im reading it probably is?

With just basic care I've had little to no burn in over the last 5.5 years using the screen in a light controlled office.

What are the odds this pixel failure is improved with more current gen screens?

I admit I havn't researched this yet.

 

[MistaSparkul]

Burn in isn't what is going to take my screen out, it's the dead pixels along the edges of the screen creeping in. Oxidation creeping in from failing sealing along the edges is what im reading it probably is?

With just basic care I've had little to no burn in over the last 5.5 years using the screen in a light controlled office.

What are the odds this pixel failure is improved with more current gen screens?

I admit I havn't researched this yet.

I think it's only a problem on the CX models and maybe C1 that use the WBC panel, probably some manufacturing issue with those panels. I had a B7 from 2017 that I gave to my parents and it doesn't have any dead pixels or delamination going on at all even after 10 years. Owners of the C2 and up don't seem to be complaining about this problem either, or it could just be I haven't seen any such complaints yet but they do exist. The CX is definitely widespread, whoever doesn't have it is either one of the lucky ones or just has not yet noticed.