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Upgrade Ti4200/64?

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I have a problem - my kid (6 years old) has a GF2 GTS 32M and I think it's dying. I dont game - she does. But being 6, her games would run fine on just about anything. She runs a 1.4 Tbird on an Asus A7V133 with 384M PC133.

I was thinking of giving her my GF4 Ti4200 64M and buying me a little better card. I am trying to keep it at $130 or less, and was looking at a Ti4600 128M. I need dual outputs (VGA DVI) for dual mons. My system: Athlon XP2000 on Epox 8K5A2+ with 1024M DDR 2100.

Would this be a decent upgrade for me, or should I keep my card and just get the kid a little better card for $75 or so? Other suggestions?

TIA

dog
 
i would suggest that you buy your sister a new card, geforce2 or anything with the same price range. geforce ti series are still good for gaming, i think its even better than radeon9600
 
give her the ti4200, get a better card!

i used to have ti4200 64mb, switched to 9800 pro, and its a worthy switch!
 
I have both a TI4200 and a 9700 pro overclocked to 9800 pro speeds sitting beside me, and of course there is a huge difference. However, the TI4200 is still a great card if you're still playing mostly DX8 games. It takes a pounding in Halo and X2, but for the other games my dad and I play (UT2K3, BF1942, CoD, Age of Mythology, etc) it's more than sufficient as long as you don't get into AA/AF
 
For the price of the 9600 cards now, it's kind of hard to reccomend a Ti4600. They have a PowerColor 9600 Pro on NewEgg for $135 (free shipping). It has VGA and DVI and comes with a DVI to VGA adapter. Talking about it is kind of making me want to upgrade my card...
 
I would like nothing more than to buy me a bad ass card. However, our family vacation planner dictates that I exercise frugality for the remainder of the calendar term (i.e. wife would kick my ass if I bought a $300 video card before we went on vacation). SO, I am on a budget. I really dont NEED a new card for me, but I hate to waste good money gain nothing.

I think I am leaning towards upgrading my rig. I was looking at the 9600 pro also - is it a noticible improvement over the 4200? Is it better than the 4600 at the same price? I have no preference ATI vs Nvidia.
 
One question... why are you buying a big 3d card if you don't game?

Grab a 9100, excellent 2d image quality, enhancements for streaming and compressed video...
anywhere from $50 to $100, depending on what features you get.
I just got my bro a VIVO 9000 for $54 from Newegg, it appears they've sold out tho...
Its decent, although I wish I had gotten him a 9100... just not *quite* fast enough on certain games...
 
Originally posted by 0ldman
One question... why are you buying a big 3d card if you don't game?
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Well, 3 reasons really: 1) My oldest kid is 6 - it wont be long before she gets into more sophisticated games. 2) I do have a couple games of my own, and who knows, as time progresses, maybe I will be spending more time with games. I like the options to be available to me. 3) Never hurts to upgrade. I will almost always be happier with a step forward than a step sideways.

Normally this isn't an issue - I would just do it and be done with it. But, as I said, until the vacation pans out, I have to be a little more careful with my budget.
 
Well, 9600 pro wont give you much difference in gaming. I would say either get 9700 pro, 9800 non-pro, 9800 pro, 9800XT. If you get anything else. You are just wasting money for little performance.

Or put the money to the side and keep it. Then upgrade when new generation of cards come out. Save up $10 bux every week or something and it will add up. Your ti4200 will run mostly all the games that are out now. So I wouldn't worry about upgrading. I had 9800 Pro and I downgraded to ti4200 cuz I wasn't using full potential of the card because I don't play high resolutions and I don't use anti-alias. Right now I am playing Max Payne 2 and it works perfectly. There is no need to upgrade.
 
I'm with the buddy who mentioned the 9100 or whatever.

Just get her a cheap card. Geforce FX5200 or Radeon 9200 will do. Around $50, you save money, she gets a better card than she already has, you keep your card which is still decent, and your wife doesn't get mad. It's a win-win-win-win situation.
Even if she does end up wanting to play better games in a year or so, you're only out $50.
 
Ok guys - you got me. I have been thinking about your feedback, and you're right. I just need to replace her card and be done for now. (i hate you guys...;) )

I dont know that much about the ATI cards (9000, 9100, 9200, SE, Pro, etc). Where is the sweet spot for performance, say under $75? I would venture a guess that the Pro versions are generally better/faster than the SE series cards, no? And how do they compare to the Nvidia cards in the same price range?

I am willing to read reviews and comparisons, but I just dont have the time to search them out right now. I'm asking for your opinions based on your experience, or what you have read. I really appreciate all the help/advice you offer!!

Thanks again!

dog
 
The 8500/9100's are pretty much the exact same cards and will give you the performance somewhere between a gf3ti and a gf4ti (what I would recommend). http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/simprod.asp?pid=6351&ad=pwatch $72

I believe the 9000 and 9200 are the same cards also and are slower than the 8500/9100's.... roughly around the level of a GF3Ti200 if I recall correctly (possibly slower). edit: yeah and do stay away from the SE's... they have 64bit memory which is quite craptastic ;).
 
9000/9200 aren't big gamers.
A Geforce 3 would be better in most games, 9000 is poor on high poly games. You can tell while playing...
Set geometric detail high, the 9000 chokes. Set it low, Kyle Katarn's face looks like a damn pentagon, it runs smooth... a bit of an exageration, JKII runs ok, but Serious Sam SE, Knights of the Old Republic, most console emulators, etc, choke.
The 9100 is a much better card, much more leveled out processing power vs feature set.
 
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